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More safety concerns with maintenance work
A brief history:
This log from the Unimatic maintenance display for troubleshooting
work was relayed to Untied.com from a mechanic at LAX.
Highlights in red are the alarming sections. The aircraft
in question (United 8180) is a 747-400 that was flying in March
with the control rod missing from the left aileron power control
unit (PCU). There is discussion among insiders that this was caused
by maintenance work performed by Timco, one of the third vendor
sites at the center of another scandal.
What is perhaps most frightening is that despite this very serious
flight incident, the foreman who "signed off" on the aircraft did so
without performing any mechanical work to correct the problem, after
it was diverted to Ontario Airport, California.
Some important questions: Why was there no maintenance record (MR)
associated with this power control unit? How can anyone be sure
that this critical component is working effectively? Where
is the missing control rod? Did Timco inspect it? If so, where
was the inspector?
Note that the log is in reverse chronological order so it may be easier
to read from the bottom up.
February 28, 2003
United Airlines Employees Sue ESOP, Committee
CHICAGO - A group of United Airlines (NYSE:UAL) employees today
filed a lawsuit against the airline's employee stock ownership plan
(ESOP) and its trustees, claiming those charged with protecting
the interests of the employee-owners failed in their duties, costing
the employee-owners billions of dollars.
Filed in US District Court in Chicago by Seattle attorney Steve
Berman, the suit claims the UAL ESOP committee - all employees of
UAL - was not objective in its decision to hold UAL stock as it
plummeted in value even before the September 11, 2001 attack, which
further weakened the stock price.
Further details are available here.
February 2, 2003
Ed: Further information has been brought to our attention by Mr. Tim Hafer,
a former Warranty Coordinator with UAL, regarding maintenance safety at
UAL. The big questions are why the FAA has allowed the airline to
get away with such serious safety violations with only a minor
slap on the wrist and how the airline managed to terminate
employees following federally protected whistleblowing actions?
On March 3, Tim Hafer was notified that an amicus brief was filed on his
behalf by the Office of the Solicitor of The Department of Labor, opposing
United Airline's motion for a bankruptcy stay of his whistleblowing
case under the Wendell Ford Airline Aviation Act.
I was employed at United Airlines' Maintenance Base in San Francisco
as a Warranty Coordinator in the Contract Administration Department
(SFOOX). This department is responsible for the administration of
contracts with outside vendors performing overhauls of United
aircraft.
My duties were to extract repair records from UAL's Aircraft
Maintenance Information System (AMIS) using SQL programming language.
I would analyze these records in order to file warranty claims with
Boeing and Airbus. In this capacity, I uncovered numerous incidents
of unlicensed personnel illegally signing off repair work on United
aircraft at third party vendor sites -- BE Aerospace/Tramco in
Washington, Mobile Aerospace in Alabama, and Timco in North Carolina.
This outsourcing resulted in several dangerous incidents reported
in Forbes Magazine in April
2002. Another airline was less fortunate: the ValueJet Disaster
of a few years ago was attributed to negligence during a similar
third party overhaul of their aircraft.
The following timeline provides a summary of how UAL and the FAA
responded to the evidence of these dangerous practices. More
details are available by following the links.
December 4, 2002
Ed: Here's the text of a complaint sent by a premier passenger to United's CEO
Glenn Tilton, in advance of a FedEx box of trash he collected from his seat in
first class. Interestingly, this letter generated a telephone call from
Mr. Tilton in response to the complaint.
I hope that your Holiday was better than mine. Certainly it MUST have been
if you managed to avoid flying on United Air Lines.
What started out the day before thanksgiving at 630 am at DCA was bad
enough, but yesterday was the final slap in the face from an airline that
really DOES need to consider suspending operations, if only long enough to
fire several of your employees who are so unhappy with their jobs that they
manage to transfer it to your C U S T O M E R S (get that? US ....you
remember? The ones who P A Y to fly your airline?)
I'll dispense with the day
before nightmares. Yesterday was the straw that broke the camels back. You
will be recieving a federal express tomorrow with some of the TRASH that was
IN MY FIRST CLASS SEAT. The one that by the way, I paid a full FUA fare for,
Not an upgrade.
I am a Lufthansa Senator which is the equivalent of your
1K. And a whole HELL of a lot of that flying is on United. I left Atlanta
yesterday on flight 1787 at 4:19 PM on a B737300. ZILCH on the service. A
drink during predeparture and then the flight attendant, once up in the air
" would anyone like anything else to drink before we land?" EXCUSE ME! BUT
the last time I heard , a flight in duration of 1:45 minutes was at the very
least a full beverage service, NOT a "you've had one on the ground don't
bother me now" HOWEVER, the "jumpseater" who was seated up front with the
working flight attendant (a true embarrassment to United, by the way)
probably interfered with the working flight attendant. Certainly all the
rest of us in first class had to listen to her whine and complain about the
woes of being on "reserve" and "not getting my hours in" and "being based
in Chicago and living in Atlanta" being a "real BITCH on the sleeptime" (her
words, not mine) And really. A skin tight white tshirt under a short grey
halter top that reminded me more of Brittany Spears? And at Least Brittany
wears a bra! Skin tight leotard that passed for pants and heels high enough
to make any working girl envious. What really IRKED me about her performance
was the fact that she wouldnt shut up . AND the fact that she talked loud
enough for the entire cabin to hear. Also your crew in the economy cabin
were busy in the aisle. SO when the curtain was left opened "for security
reasons, SIR!" passengers naturally had to use the forward lavatory since
the cart was not getting out of the aisle anytime soon. And the jumpseater
of course managed to THROW herself across the aisle (in the process spilling
my drink!) while practically shreiking at he or she who dared brave the line
into the "first class cabin" that " THIS IS FIRST CLASS !!! GO BACK!!! SIT
DOWN!!! YOU CANT COME UP HERE!!!!" Don't give me the crap about a jumpseater
being a crew member on duty at all times. She wasn't in Uniform but boy did
she flash that ID all the while whining about how United is treating her. Do
her a favor. Get RID OF HER! A loose cannon like that is all you need right
now!
OK. SO. Now we get to Chicago. Arrive C4. I proceed down to the Red Carpet
Club at C 18...Its a dump. As in FILTHY. Dishes and cups on EVERY TABLE....5
empty trays that I assume at one time held crackers and various munchies. I
enquire of the bartender on duty as to the availability of other snacks. "
DERSA RETORANT OW-SIDE" (I ascertained this to mean, "There is a restaurant
outside") well you can't bring food into the club and no big deal, my flight
to DCA is a DINNER FLIGHT . I order my drink and upon entering the smoking
area am verbally castigated by a man who says rather impudently I might add,
that " youshouldaordereddatfromadawaitress" who was sitting on the phone in
the smoking area. I didnt even know she was an employee until she saw that I
had need of a refill.I called Executive Reservations and got Ms. Pat
McGreagor in Denver. (the only good part of this trip on United) I informed
her of the deplorable conditions in the club. She put me on hold and made
some phone calls. She came back, again apologized and referred me to a
Service Director, Ms. Jackson. Thank you Ms. Mac Gregor, but next time I
think I will pass. This woman barely looked up at me and more or less
snapped "do you wanna fila complaint or what? " NO , I just wanted to point
out the serious discrepency by reading that United has the best airport
clubs in the world. Given that I am a member of several and have never seen
a dump like this. Pointing out that the "waitress" was on the phone she
responded " they are allowed to do that on break" Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Last I
checked I have to pay 475.00 per year to be a member of the club. And I
don't recall any of my friends at United who are employees being allowed to
duck into the Red Carpet Club when on break. Frankly I am amazed. But
nothing United does these days surprises me. Time to head to gate B11 for
the flight to DCA. As usual its a circle jerk during boarding. Must be
minimum staffing since there are 3 cabin attendants. The "purser" was too
slammed to even acknowledge that we were boarding much less off coffee or
even water. (your other crews manage) So off we go. Up in the air rather
quickly. Im looking forward to dinner, since I have pre-ordered a lo-fat
option.
I am sitting in 1B... your purser manages to take meal orders from everyone
in the cabin in an order I have come to term "selective discrimination" (yes
I know she was taking orders in the order of Premier Status) Sorry, but I
hate to tell you that Star Alliance Gold gets me NOTHING on United.
Including Upgrades. I ***** P A I D ****** 966.00 for a one way ticket from
Atlanta to Washington. FULL FARE. She comes to me and says, "will you be
having barbecued ribs for dinner" I said, no I will be having my lo fat
meal. "hmmm....well I dont see your name on the list ...you have to order
this in advance you know (duh! I think I have flown a few million miles and
know this being that I booked it 2 weeks ago) ... you know your travel agent
probably forgot to do it.
LESSON ONE: I DIDNT USE A TRAVEL AGENT. I WENT DIRECTLY TO UAL DCACTO.
Funny. But the man across the aisle was eating a salmon filet. The meal
choices were ravioli or beef. There was a card on his meal tray that said "
MR. J. DOUGLAS/THIS MEAL HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY PREPARED FOR YOU"
So IXNAY to the fact that I wasn't on the list.. He was very into the meal
and commented as we were chatting across the aisle. He and his wife had
managed to upgrade from "W" fares AND he got MY meal. Of course it wasn't
his fault. I find it apalling that someone who actually PAID for first class
(something you people might want to recognize come Chapter 11 time) doesn't
get the service. So needless to say I passed on the meal. And my "travel
agent that screwed it up" just happened to be United Air Lines. You see, I
don't use a travel agent any more because since the airlines dumped
commissions, they want to charge me an extra 50.00 to screw it up and its
obvious that as usual , I can get the same fouled up service by just calling
United directly!
An airplane is a means of transportation . NOT a restaurant. But when I PAY
for first class I certainly am entitled to EXPECT to recieve what I PAID
for!
And in my business, (the legal profession) we call that BREACH OF CONTRACT
When will you people shape up and realize that if you keep screwing the
customer, that you aren't going to have to worry about flying since you will
be out of business?
Mr. Tilton, you may expect FEDEX AIRBILL: 8372 0652 9359 to arrive at WHQ
tomorrow. In it you will find the nuts and pretzels and cocktail straws and
napkins that were removed (by ME) from my seat on UA 628 PRIOR TO BEING ABLE
TO OCCUPY SAID SEAT on 12/1/2002.
Best of luck in the future. With employees and service like this you haven't
got a chance!
September 26, 2002
The U.S. Air Force OSI/FBI confiscated several boxes of evidence, related
to United maintenance records at Charleston. The same evening, UAL told a
mechanic that he will face a hearing early next week to face discharge
for his involvement in this action. A source has informed Untied.com
that one engine just serviced by UAL failed 5 out of 8 test runs and
that a supervisor signed off on the work and destroyed all documentation
related to the failures. Arrests may be close at hand.
August 24, 2002
Three of the four wives of the pilots and co-pilots of the two UA flights
that went down on Sept. 11 appeared on the show this morning. All four
families experienced the following in their post 9/11 dealings with United:
For God's sake, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT could do a better job of running an
airline!
August 13, 2002
Ed: Once in a while, Untied.com receives a flame that is so entertaining,
it demands to be shared with other readers. Here's a recent sample.
From: CODBUD@aol.com
I have a complaint to file with all o fthe idiots that think that running a
multi-BILLIONARE dollar corporation, such as United Airlines, is an easy
task. My father is a Captain for United Airlines and I am appaulled at the
mear sight of your tasteless and trashy web-site called UNTIED.com. I think
that you have real problems if you have ntohing else better to do than
critcize a company that has works its ass off to get where it is at today.
My father has been through some hard times with United and respectfully so,
but does that mean that the company that employs you has never had
problems???? I think that a company can never be perfect and for you to
demand perfection from a company such as United or any airlines is rediculous
and complete and total cowardly act. I must also let you idiots no that
United Express is not the same company as UNITED, they are two completly
different companies, so when you try to put United down for something that
they didn't do, that would tell me that you are not very intelligent!!!! I
am sure that if you worked for a great company such as United you would
understand that hard work and EDUCATION can pay off. I bid you farewell.
United Airlines FOREVER
July 2, 2002
Ed: Since the writer of the following letter has been advised by his
attorney to retain anonymity for now, we are asking that any
employees, past or present, with knowledge of similar incidents,
contact us through the
ualemployee address. All such
correspondence will be conveyed to the former supervisor and,
with your permission, may be featured on the Untied.com site
as well.
I am a (former) Supervisor who received a complaint from
an employee who was allegedly sexually harassed by another Supervisor. I
reported it immediately to my manager, who said he'd take care of it.
Approximately ONE YEAR LATER, because of other
abuses to this same employee (retaliation, denial of legimate FMLA request,
etc.) and by this time Union intervention(no Union representation earlier)
the Co. launched an investigation, which they quickly attempted to
whitewash, and denying to EEOC that they knew anything about it prior to then.
However in interviewing me for this investigation, the Manager
attempted to put words in my mouth during the investigation interview
which would clear him of liability, but I refused and eventually I was
terminated, after I made sure I had documentation and proof (in black and
white) that Local Station Mgmt., People Svc, Legal dept, and others knew
about this and did nothing.
There is a Zero Tolerance regulation within UA, but in fact it is
Selective Tolerance. I would appreciate very much if anyone else that
might know of other situations like this, or that might be convinced to
speak up (now that they know they're not alone) would contact me ASAP,
as my case against UA is presently filed in Federal Court, but no date
set as of yet.
Believe me, this is no bogus communication, this is the real thing. If
anyone does NOT know what this company is capable of by now, I will make
sure that they will.
June 17, 2002
Ed: This letter is being featured here as it so eloquently expresses
the sense of frustration and disappointment that passengers feel
when first confronted by the indefensible stupidity of UAL's
operations and are then further insulted by the airline's
cynical demonstration of "regret."
To: Mr. Jack Creighton, CEO
Dear Mr. Creighton:
There is a reason people are flying less nowadays. It
has little to do with fear generated by the Sept. 11
attacks. It has everything to do with the fact
companies like yours treat passengers like garbage.
Nothing ever changes.
Two summers ago, your industry went before Congress
and promised to clean up its act after its deplorable
performance through the peak travel season. Instead,
all passengers face is longer lines, inexplicable
delays and a further descent in service.
After that infamous summer, your company printed
apologies for its blunders at the bottom of every
itinerary. Typed, computer-generated words enhanced
the warmth of the oh-so-sincere message. Truly, they
did.
Clearly, those words were nothing but lip service.
I am writing you today regarding my latest woeful
experience on your airline, as well as the general
malaise your company's incompetence has created in the
flying public.
There are so many problems with your airline, and
flying in general, I do not know where to begin. Let
us start with my flight, United 428, from Denver to
Newark, N.J., on April 19.
Upon arriving at the airport, I find the new security
company, hired by United to replace Argenbright, has
implemented strict new measures requiring every
passenger to be finished with the check-in process one
hour prior to departure.
There is nothing inherently wrong with this new
procedure, except for the fact your staff is
ill-equipped to handle it. And no passengers were ever
notified regarding the change.
As is now standard, I arrived at the airport two hours
prior to departure. But because you had so few
personnel working in the front, I did not make it
through this maze of a line until 50 minutes had
passed. I was lucky.
An estimated 40 percent of the people in line did not
enjoy such success and missed your new one-hour
deadline. This resulted in general chaos and
well-deserved anger, as passengers were re-booked on
later flights to meet this new and previously
unannounced change in procedure.
Tell you what. Lets skip that problem for a few
moments. Lets pretend your ridiculously strict
enforcement of a previously unannounced rule change
never happened. Lets skip directly to the problems on
board flight 428.
With the flight nearly completed, a freak thunderstorm
hit the greater New York area and produced
tornado-sized winds. Our flight was diverted to
Washington Dulles. As aggravating as weather problems
can be, I know they cannot be avoided.
What occurred on the ground at Dulles, however, was a
disgrace.
After refueling the Boeing 777 at Dulles shortly after
5 p.m., ground control informed our pilot Newark would
reopen at 6 p.m, and that we should be airborne no
later than 5:45 p.m. and into Newark by 6:30 p.m.
Instead of making the best out of this situation, the
heavy-handed bureaucrats who run United Operations at
Dulles decided to combine two smaller Newark-bound
flights onto our plane.
First, we were told it would be one flight. So we
watched all the passengers from this first flight
climb aboard and find seats. After waiting nearly an
hour, we seemed ready to leave.
But then United Operations told us they decided that
passengers from yet another commuter flight would be
transferred onto our plane. We had to endure the
entire process again.
As one of your own flight attendants said shortly
after the second announcement, "This isn’t a flight.
This is a disgrace."
At 8 p.m., approximately two-and-a-half hours after we
could have left, we finally left for Newark. Aside
from the fact we were denied food during the ordeal,
we wasted countless hours on top of the initial
weather delay.
Your operations department capitalized on our
helplessness.
Your Newark Operations crew fared no better. Although
we were only the third United flight to arrive after
the fierce storm, according to a baggage handler, it
took your ground crew 50 minutes to get our luggage
onto the carousel.
Four hours after we were originally scheduled to land,
already-flustered passengers had the added pleasure of
waiting nearly an hour for their bags.
And while we're on the subject of Newark baggage
claim, I've stood in grimy New York City alleys less
seedy than your baggage area. It is a cesspool.
But that is no surprise. From the beginning, starting
with the awful security company you hired in Denver,
to the end, every aspect of the trip brought nonstop
aggravation. All of these problems fostered nothing
but animosity toward your airline.
Of course, that animosity has existed since your
wretched summer of 2001. But your poorly planned,
knee-jerk responses to the Sept. 11 hijackings have
only exacerbated these feelings.
Newly implemented measures are nothing more than a big
dog-and-pony show, none of which would have stopped
the tragedy. For all your PR-spin, you still do not
X-ray every checked bag. You still do not bag-match,
despite assurances to the contrary. You hassle your
paying customers while allowing the real dangers to
persist.
And all passengers get for your toothless measures are
longer - and unpredictable - lines. An hour at
check-in. Two hours in the security line. Another hour
at the gate.
By the time I navigate the maze of your disgraceful
check-in procedures and arrive at the gate, then fly
to my destination, I may as well have driven. I can
drive from Denver to Chicago, and arrive only two
hours later than if I had flown United.
As more people realize this, many will choose that
option, which will only have a worsening effort on
your already-poor fiscal health.
Of course, these new procedures only magnified your
pre-existing ineptitude. United already flirted with
bankruptcy before that day, thanks to years of fiscal
imprudence and the crescendo of anger during the
summer of 2000.
While I have great sympathy and compassion for United
employees who were affected by Sept. 11, I resent the
fact United corporate shills milked the sympathy card
before Congress and received a $15 billion bailout.
As a taxpayer, I am happy to support a troubled
industry after the cowardly attack on our country. As
a taxpayer, I am outraged you would request these
funds under the guise of Sept. 11 relief, when in fact
you are looking to recover from years of fiscal
avarice and galling treatment of passengers.
Airlines go bankrupt for a reason, sir. One of which
is because they can no longer meet the reasonable
expectations of your customers. Why should taxpayers
support your anemic airline when well-run companies,
such as Southwest, turned a profit through bear-market
times?
I have written my elected representatives, urging them
not to grant you further financial relief and to let
the free market work its course. I have also implored
them to revisit the issue of passing a true
passenger's bill of rights, which your lobbyists
skillfully scuttled two summers ago.
Now, more than ever, passengers deserve that
legislation. Two years later, you still treat
customers as if you believe we are too inattentive to
notice your incompetence or too apathetic to care. I
can assure you the latter is not true. We have endured
United’s shameful conduct for far too long.
Thankfully, Jet Blue and Frontier are finally emerging
as legitimate challenges to your monopoly of the
Denver market. I am rooting for them to succeed, and
will continue to fly them as much as possible.
You are not losing customers such as myself because
people are afraid to fly. You are losing customers
because you make it inherently inconvenient and
aggravating to do so.
I long for the days when the worst complaints about
airline service were regarding the food. Now, I hope
for the day when United will follow Braniff and
Eastern into the bankruptcy courts.
It is not out of any malice these wishes are born.
Only when United is gone, however, will we receive
efficient and responsible service from a major carrier
in Denver. Until then, we can only vent our
frustrations regarding your inane procedures, needless
flight delays and empty promises.
Please save your canned apology letter for the endless
list of affronts.
I've had enough of your company's hollow regrets. If
you are not prepared to offer compensatory measures,
such as additional Mileage Plus miles or class
upgrades on future flights -- measures to show you are
genuinely sorry -- than I have neither the time nor the
inclination to deal with United.
Mr. Creighton, I understand you assumed the title of
CEO only in recent months. I wish you well in your
efforts to reverse the sagging performance of your
company.
But after more than 50 trips in the last three years
on your airline, there is only one lesson that
reverberates through my mind.
At United, nothing ever changes.
Sincerely,
Peter C. Bigelow
April 18, 2002
UAL vs. Kevakian -- round 2
Ed: It seems that this story of UAL retaliation against its employees
for whisteblowing is becoming all too familiar. Fortunately, the
governmental bodies are starting to take notice and we can hope
that changes will soon be imposed. In the meantime, UAL will
only respond to the bottom line... money.
Mr. Kevakian's original letter, detailing the abuse to which his
former employer (United) put him,
can be found here.
First off, I want to thank you for the opportunity to present my
allegations directed towards United Airlines on your website. I
have received hundreds of email from concerned United Airlines
employees who describe continued safety and maintenance infractions
perpetrated by United Airlines management. Most of the email that
I have received deals with maintenance and crew duty time violations
originating out of San Francisco International Airport.
The maintenance issues primarily deal with what is called SQUAWK
Sheets. These sheets inform the pilot of any maintenance issues he
or she should be aware of concerning that particular aircraft. If
the Squawk Sheet is altered or completely removed, the pilot is
flying blind concerning any potential maintenance issues that could
possibly arise during flight. I have received numerous emails
describing how United management at SFO either destroy the Squawk
Sheet or alter them in some way thus, taking the pilot decision-making
out of the loop so the flight takes off on time. While working at
SFO, I was not personally aware of this situation, but if the
allegations are in fact true, the ramifications could be disastrous.
The other bulk of email deals with flight crew duty time infractions.
The complaints are primarily from flight crewmembers that fly from
HNL (Hawaii) to SFO (San Francisco) to CHI (Chicago). The email I
received describes concerns on flights into San Francisco during
Flow. Flow is a situation where San Francisco International Airport
reduces approaches and departures to one runway for safety reasons.
The repercussions of this are that all flights are delayed considerably
with some flight crews experiencing holding pattern delays. Once
the flight crew lands at SFO, they are expected to continue on to
Chicago regardless of their duty time or how tired they may be.
Now the bulk of these complaints comes from the flight attendants,
I did however receive one email from a pilot who indicated that
there is an "expectation" from the airline to proceed to your final
destination regardless of duty time. His concern is that one-day
a flight crew may make a tragic mistake caused by fatigue. While
working at SFO, I was aware of the flight crew duty time violations.
Every time, I forwarded email to the FAA or the DOT concerning
these matters, I kept asking myself why would a person in management
risk the lives of not only the flight crewmembers, but passengers
as well? I found out later that one word answered my question. That
word is MONEY. United management personnel and some of their
subordinates receive on-time performance bonuses. These bonuses
can be quite substantial over the course of a year.
For about a year now, I have been forwarding select emails that I
receive to authorities within the Federal Aviation Administration
and the United States Department of Transportation. When I hired
on with United Airlines, one of my references was a FAA Inspector.
I asked him how would I forward information that I receive from
other United employees. He told me what to do but warned me to stay
out of it because if United Airlines ever found out I would probably
lose my job.
Well, it appears that United Airlines found out about my whistle
blowing as late as February 12th, 2002. On February 15th, while
being admitted to John C. Lincoln Hospital for a possible heart
attack my wife was informed that we no longer had United Airlines
health benefits. The next day, from my hospital bed, I contacted
United Airlines Benefits - Blue Cross Blue Shield and was told that
they received a Memo on February 12th, 2002 from United Airlines
to terminate my insurance coverage and to back date my policy to
last year October 1, 2001. I was warned that even though Blue Cross
Blue Shield may have already paid some claims during this time, I
may now be responsible for all medical bills incurred by myself
and eligible family members because of charge backs. I also lost
my Cobra rights because they are using the October 1, 2001 date.
After leaving the hospital, I contacted my previous supervisor whom
advised me that I was "separated" from the firm effective October
1, 2001. I informed her that I was never notified. To clear up the
matter, United Management sent me a certified letter received on
April 3rd, 2002 indicated that my termination date was move up to
April 1, 2002. They cited a past medical report that indicated I
was disabled and that I could not return to work. The medical report
they referred to was made 6 months prior to my surgery date of
January 10, 2001 which stated that in the United doctors opinion,
I would be able to perform all the duties of employment sometime
after surgery. Six months after surgery, the United Airlines medical
examiner said he would need an additional six months to determine
my work status. United Airlines never made the follow-up appointment
but, instead, relied on the remarks of my surgeon that I may never
be able to lift anything above 50 lbs. I even completed a Functional
Capacity Exam, which did indicate that I was weak on my right side,
but with physical therapy, I could build myself up and thus, cleared
for light duty. Also, I just received a letter from Cigna Insurance,
United Airlines long-term disability carrier. The letter indicated
they reviewed the same documents that United Airlines claim to have
reviewed and determined that I now meet the physical limitations
of Gate Agent (among other categories), the same category of work
that I was terminated from, and thus, no longer qualify for disability
benefits. This letter was dated 7 days after my April 1, 2002
termination notice received from United Airlines.
Not once, and in contravention of current Union agreement contracts,
was I ever offered light duty status. However, during this same
time and at the same station I was assigned to work (Sky Harbor
Airport Phoenix) there were two women whom became pregnant and
was automatically offered light duty status for a period not to
exceed 90 days.
The genesis of all this surrounds my Workers Compensation Appeals
Board victory against United Airlines as I referred to in my original
email to you. From that moment on, United management embarked on
a path of retaliation against me in retribution for exerting my
legal rights.
Case in point. During the discovery process legal counsel on both
sides have the right of discovery, which is an exchange of documents
prior to a hearing. At my Workers Compensation Appeals Board hearing,
the Honorable Judge Quan asked United Airlines legal counsel Jack
Huskin with the law firm of Mullen & Filippi, why he refused to
provide discovery. Jack Huskin replied, "Because I did not want to
take the time to make the photo copies". That is the type of
arrogance, which has permeated United Airlines. In my opinion it
was that type of arrogance, which caused them, in part, to lose in
court and will continue to do so in the near future.
Case in point. After my victory within the Workers Compensation
Appeals Board, I had to fly down to Los Angeles to see a physical
therapist. Upon my arrival to the airport, I was told that I could
no longer fly using my flight benefits. I demanded to speak with
a Supervisor to find out the reason why. He approached my wife and
I and said he could not give me a reason. I noticed his hands were
shaking. I explained that I had to go to LA for medical reasons.
He said there is nothing he could do. I then asked him to provide
me with a letter of employment verification so that I can fly on
SouthWest (a normal request with employees). He refused. HOWEVER,
my wife was allowed to fly that day aboard United Airlines. The
irony is that I had to sign her "Write-Your-Own" ticket for her to
board. I was forced to pay full fare to fly SouthWest Airlines
where I met up with my wife.
Upon our arrival back home, I immediately contacted the Union. The
Union filed a grievance and all of a sudden I am accused of not
paying for past travel benefits. Now the rest of my family is unable
to fly. I asked for copies of my payroll records, United Airlines
refuses and then says they are lost. Does this sound familiar to
any other United employee out there?
I was finally able to show United management that I did in fact
pay all of my flight pass travel and that it was United Airlines
who owed me money. Management never followed up with me nor did
the Union.
Now I am terminated from United Airlines without benefit of any
administrative appellate rights, my family has no health insurance
coverage causing my workers compensation attorney is to file what
is called a 132A Discrimination for Wrongful Termination while
under Workers Compensation.
I am sure that my termination from United Airlines involves more
than just my Workers Compensation Appeals Board victory. I speculate
that my assisting whistle blowers have a lot to do with it as well.
Consistently, United Airlines management claims that United Employee
whistle blowers are just disgruntled individuals. That is not what
I get when I read all these emails. What I get is that most of
these individuals are frightened. Frightened for themselves and
their families and frightened for the passengers who fly aboard
United Airlines aircraft. These are the people who see first hand
the maintenance and safety infractions perpetrated by United
management solely to benefit from on-time performance bonuses. Some
of these concerned individuals claim that United Airlines is a
ticking time bomb and if no one will take a serious look at all
the allegations presented -- people may end up paying with there
lives.
For me, I will continue to forward the email I receive to the
appropriate government authorities and pursue my allegations within
United States Federal Court and Department of Labor. It is my
understanding that a class-action law suit will be filed against
United Airlines within the near future. It is my hope that one-day
all the sacrifices made by the individuals who decided to speak
out for the concerns of others will eventually be acknowledged.
My advice for those who currently hold United Airlines stock... SELL.
Sincerely,
Gregory S. Kevakian
March 22, 2002
UAL vs. Whistleblowers
Ed: This letter and the accompanying order from the U.S. Department of
Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration office,
describe UAL's apparent retaliation against one of its employees
for reporting safety concerns to his employer. UAL argued that
the employee was terminated for violations of IAMA Rules of Conduct,
rather than for protected activities (whistleblowing), and is
appealing the decision, but has refused to provide reasonable
information that would have allowed for their true motivation to
be determined through investigation.
Further information regarding UAL's treatment of its employees can
be found here. Additional reports
can be read here concerning inattention and disregard for safety,
including one from a
whistleblower, who was reprimanded after reporting a crack in
an aircraft frame and another regarding poor training for security staff.
I was a mechanic for United Airlines for almost 16 years. On July
6, 2000 I was involved in a safety incident on an A320 at departure
time, in which my foreman created the safety hazard by informing
the flight crew that we were finished with our job, when in fact
we were not. The flight crew then turned the system on while we
were still working. I pursued this incident for 9 months until it
ultimately cost me my job. I filed suit under the whistleblower
act and have won the preliminary order of immediate reinstatement.
However United is appealing the decision. Under the whistleblower
act, there cannot be a stay in the reinstatement of an employee
who has won this preliminary order. United has filed a motion in
court that their due process was violated during the investigation.
Here is the preliminary order (public record):
December 7, 2001
Mr. John Midgett
RE: United Airlines/Lawson & Lawson/8-0600-01-013
Dear Mr. Midgett:
This is to advise you that we have completed our investigation of
the above-referenced complaint filed by David Lawson and Jodi
Lawson, under the employee protection provisions of 49 U.S.C Sec.
42121 of the Wendell H. Ford Aviation Investment and Reform Act
for the 21st Century (AIR Act). Complainant David Lawson, claimed
that Respondent, United Airlines, suspended him with out pay and
terminated him from employment in retaliation for [scanning error
here]
Jurisdiction
Complainant David Lawson and Respondent are both covered under the
provisions of the AIR Act. Respondent is an air carrier and flies
a commercial aircraft within the United States. The Complainant
was employed as a mechanic by Respondent, United Airlines.
Complainant Jodi Lawson is not an employee of an air carrier or
contractor or subcontractor of an air carrier. Complainant Jodi
Lawson is the wife of the complainant and is not covered under the
provisions of the AIR Act.
Whether the complaint was timely filed.
Complainant was discharged on or about April 2, 2001, which he
claims is the most recent date of discrimination. On June 21, 2001,
he filed a complaint with the Secretary of Labor-OSHA, alleging
that Respondent discriminated against him in violation of 49 U.S.C.
42121. This complaint was timely filed.
Findings (Analysis to include protected activity, employer knowledge,
adverse action and nexus)
The Act prohibits discharging or otherwise discriminating against
an employee if the employee "provided... to the employer...
information relating to any violation or alleged violation of any
order, regulation, or standard of the Federal Aviation Administration
or any other provision of Federal Law relating to air carrier safety
under this subtitle or any other law of the United States..." 49
U.S.C. Sec. 42121(a)(1).
David Lawson participated in a protected activity under the AIR
Act when he voiced numerous complaints to management beginning on
July 6, 2000, related to an incident involving the repair of an
air conditioning pack. United Airlines management has admitted
knowledge of this complaint. As a result of Mr. Lawson's protected
activity, he was subjected to an adverse employment action. The
proximate timing of the adverse action to the protected activity,
and the disparate treatment of the complainant establishes a causal
link between the protected activity and the adverse action.
Therefore, a prima facie case of retaliatory discharge is established.
The respondent asserts "No Inference of Discrimination Can Be
Drawn Based On The Timing Of Lawson's Termination." The respondent
relies upon the argument that Lawson voiced his initial complaint
on Jul 11, 2000, and the date of Lawson's termination of April 2,
2001 (a nine month lapse of time). The respondent provided several
court holdings to support the argument.
The respondent's position in this matter is rejected based upon
the fact that Mr. Lawson participated in protected activity beginning
on July 6, 2000, but this was not his only protected activity. He
also participated in protected activity on July 11, 2000, August
30 2001 numerous times in September 2000, October 24, 2000, in
December 2000, January 2, 2001 and February 2001. The complainant
was subjected to an adverse action on April 2, 2001. The complainants
final protected activity was within two months of his discharge.
Thus, temporal proximity has been established in accordance with
court holdings in this matter. A prime facie case of retaliatory
discharge is established.
Consequently, once a prima facie case is established, the burden
of production shifts to the Respondent to present evidence sufficient
to rebut the inference of discrimination. The Respondent maintains
they terminated the complainant for various violations of the IAMA
Rules of Conduct. The evidence in this case suggests that the
respondent was motivated by both prohibited and legitimate reasons.
Consequently, the respondent must show that Lawson would have been
terminated even if he had not engaged in projected activity.
There is evidence that other employees similarly situated had
participated in similar conduct to the complainants but those
employees had not been discharged. The respondent requested specific
information about these situations to rebut these claims. The
respondent had previously stated in Lawsons union grievance hearing
that if any employee made these claims, they would be investigated
and disciplined for their actions. This position creates a dilemma
in protecting confidential sources from discriminatory acts by the
respondent when providing information during an investigation.
The respondent was asked to provide disciplinary actions of other
employees similarly situated in order to ascertain whether Lawson
would have been terminated even if he had not engaged in protected
activity. The respondent replied that they have historically
released confidential employee information in the union context
when requested by subpoena or during the course of litigation.
Thus, they would only be willing to provide information regarding
specific incidents, if identified.
An impasse has been created by the respondents unwillingness to
provide reasonable information in the investigation process, the
lack of subpoena authority in the investigative process, the
"chilling effect" created by the respondent involving employees
providing information about similarly situated employees, and the
balancing of release of any information provided by this agency
from a confidential source which may lead to discipline.
Therefore, a decision in this case can only be made with the weight
of the evidence to date which is that the complainant was discharged
in violation of the AIR Act. The respondent has not shown that
Lawson would have been fired in the absence of his protected
activity.
The following is a Preliminary Order which provides relief In
accordance with 49 U.S.C. 42121(2)(A).
Preliminary Order
Appeal Notification
The respondent is being notified under separate cover of the
determination reached In this matter. You and the respondent have
important rights of objection under the Wendell H. Ford Aviation
Investment Reform Act of the 21st Century which must be exercised
in a timely fashion. Section 42121(b)(2)(A) permits either the
person alleged to have committed the violation or the complainant
to file objections to the Secretarys Findings and/or Order and
request a hearing on record: 49 U.S.C. 42121(b)(2)(A). If no
objections are filed within 30 days, this finding and order will
become final and not subject to judicial review 49 U.S.C.
42121(b)(2)(A).
If you have any objections, you must file them and request a hearing
within 30 days of receipt of this letter by facsimile, overnight/next
day delivery mail or telegram to:
Chief Administrative Law Judge
with a copy to:
Adam Finkel, Regional Administrator
Additionally, you must notify the respondent of your objections to
the Findings and/or Order and your request for a hearing. Upon
receipt of an objection and a request for a hearing, the Chief
Administrative Law Judge will assign the case to a judge who will
notify the parties of the day, time, and place of hearing. The
hearing shall be conducted in accordance with the Rules of Practice
and Procedure for Administrative Hearings Before the Office of
Administrative Law Judges, codified at 29 C.F.R. Part 18.
It should be made clear to all parties that the U. S, Department
of Labor does not represent any of the parties in a hearing. The
hearing is an adversarial proceeding in which the parties will be
allowed an opportunity to present their evidence for the record.
The Administrative Law Judge who conducts the hearing will issue
a recommended decision to the Secretary based on the evidence,
testimony, and arguments presented at the hearing.
Sincerely,
Adam M. Finkel, ScD,. CIH
Cc: Steven Silvern, Complainant's Counsel
March 16, 2002
How UAL Treats its Own - #1
Ed: This letter continues the series of recent features that document
how UAL treats its own employees. Note that the writer has requested
anonymity for now (and as such, all identifying names have been
removed) but is seeking the services of an attorney. If you're an
attorney interested in taking up the case, either to demand
reinstatement or to seek a larger cash settlement for lost back
pay, you can
reach the former employee by email.
My hope is that now that I've been offered a possible settlement,
an attorney can finally get involved and take up my case. [G]
only deals with workman's compensation cases so I need other
representation. Is anyone interested?
March 11, 2002
How UAL Treats its Own - #2
My story starts back in 1993 when I was injured by an employee
falling on my shoulder. I was taken to the hospital, X-rayed, and told
that I had broken my back. The insurance company at that time, Alexsis,
decided that they would not allow me to stay in the hospital. They took me
to the car and told me that I would have to get in the car. After trying
three times, I passed out and the emergency room attendent had to pick
me up and put me in the car. I was then taken to my house by the manager
of our office and put in a hide-a-bed couch since my bedroom was upstairs.
After that, I tried to call the insurance company to see a doctor
and was told that I did not need to. After two weeks, I was finally
allowed to see a doctor. I was off work for two months and returned to
my duties as a customer service supervisor. I went back part-time and
quickly worked back to full-time. All this time I was in therapy as I
still had physical problems.
I tranferred to LAX as a ramp supervisor before deciding that the
medication and pain were too much, so I stepped down to a customer
service rep position. I continued to work until 1995 when the pain got
so bad that the doctor took me off work and said I needed surgery.
United and Alexsis said I did not. So I hired an attorney to fight
for me. It took two and a half years of fighting and no pay before my
attorney set up a conference with United and Alexsis. After 22 years of
service I was told that United want to give me $30,000 in exchange for
my resignation. My attorney laughed at them and told them we would see
them in court the next day. The next morning, my attorney called to tell
me that UAL had agreed to pay for the surgery and all back pay. Sounds
to me that they did not want to go to court with all the things that
had gone on.
I had the surgery and six months later, went back to work with no
restrictions. I continued until my back got worse and I was sent to a
pain management doctor in 1999. This doctor has done wonders for me and
he's not done. He requested to perform a surgery that he claims will help
my problem, but here we go again: United and the third insurance company,
Gallaugher Basset,t will not take care of their responsibilities. I have
gone through two depositions in the last two weeks and still have no
response from Gallaugher Bassett. We have been asking for this surgery
for the last year.
Also I requested my sick records from the date of the injury to
the present, I found that UAL put all the sick time that the insurance
company bought back into a "nonexistence" account. Any employees who
have suffered an injury should note this -- ask payroll for a copy
of your sick records. When I requested my records I found out that
before the union got involed, UAL was putting all my buyback pay in a
"nonexistence" sick account -- with a total of about 700 hours.
I have gone to my manager and he said there is nothing he can
do to help me. I was in management, as was my father -- we know
how the system works and a manager does does have the power to help.
I have written letters to UAL and I have gotten back the standard reply:
"We're doing everything possible to help you." This is clearly untrue.
If I was to have the surgery I would be back to work within three weeks.
I have a court date the first week of April but don't expect it to
go that far. Mr. Creighton says that we need trust at UAL. Well, if
you're going to treat a employee who has given 24 years of his life to
the company this way, do you really expect us to trust?!
Robert Benton
January 27, 2002
How UAL Treats its Own - #3
Ed: United Airlines basically destroyed the life of this employee and
did everthing they could to wash their hands of responsibility.
While this writer has
indicated that she lacks the financial means to pursue this matter
further and has since "gotten on with her life," any attorneys who
may be interested in following up on this story as a pro-bono case
are encouraged to contact us
through the lawsuits address at Untied.com.
I was a loyal UA employee since 1964 with a break in service from
1974-1977 while our children were in high school. I returned in
November of 1977, working, receiving promotions and praise, ending
up in ORDCG in 1984. In 1986, I was promoted from BSO to Customer
Service Agent.
On December 28, 1986, my car was hit by a non-employee at the Guard
Shack Stop Sign. The 16 year old lost control and hit my car twice.
O'Hare was closed down temporarily while a co-worker and I were
removed from my car with the jaws of life. Initial surgery was
performed at the Resurrection Hospital in Chicago.
I appeared (although I could not speak for over one week) on Walter
Jacobson's "Perspective" show. The commentary asked, "Was this
person's life not worth a $300 traffic light?" Just one month
earlier, my young lady friend lost her life plowing under a
construction truck at the same intersection, but UA refused to do
anything about it. After the telecast, a traffic light was placed
there immediately.
In April 1987, walking with the aid of two four legged crutches
and a sling over my right shoulder, I flew to California to meet
with an orthopedic surgeon at El Cajon Hospital in San Diego. I
flew back to Chicago after receiving permission from the rehab
group to return to work on a limited basis, for which I prepared
through five weeks of classroom study at the UAL training center.
In June 1987, as part of my training, I was put to work on the bag
lines, handling heavy luggage. At the time, I was walking with the
help of two "four-legged" crutches. A piece of luggage dropped and hit
my worse-damaged leg and my supervisor put me on the next plane to San
Diego for more surgery and physical therapy. Almost one year later,
with more surgery still scheduled, the diagnosis was uncertain as to
whether I could ever walk again or have total use of my facilities.
I remained on long term disability. In 1988, my husband was diagnosed
with ALS and became terminally ill, passing away in July 1990.
Given my physical condition, I requested retirement based on
disability. The Social Security administration approved my request
but in 1991, a UA company doctor, Dr. McGuffin, ordered me to
return to ORD (Chicago) by the end of my long term disability, as
the company would not permit retirement unless I was there.
Dr. McGuffin's statement was simply, "I will not allow a transfer
for 'sun and fun' to San Diego." With no medical or prescription
coverage, and by now, virtually penniless, I had no choice. I
borrowed money from an elderly couple who paid my back to Illinois.
UA refused my request for retirement, but after I hired an attorney,
they finally agreed to early retirement based on total and permanent
disability. A clause within the many pages of legal text ended my
medical coverage after one year. I was devastated, but still loyal to
my former employer.
When the "Retirees Make a Difference" program started, I was the
first in line. I volunteered and worked at the Democratic National
Convention, going on, in 1996, to work part-time at minimum wage,
on call in various departments until my last stretch in Facilities
Maintenance, headed by Ken Weslander.
At this point, my finances had dwindled and my home had physically
collapsed. In order to obtain the funds needed for the repairs,
I had to show stability on my work record. I explained this to
Mr. Weslander, who put me on the switchboard and front desk of
the Facilities Maintenance office. Mr. Weslander was aware of my
disability status and personal medical issues.
At one point, Mr. Weslander requested a report on two union employees
who were "annoying his friend." I believed his story initially,
but quickly discovered that the opposite was true. When I told
Mr. Weslander that there was nothing to report, he put me on the
switchboard for 9-1/2 hours with no bathroom or lunch breaks. (He
was aware of my personal urination problems for which I took
medication.) When I questioned this assignment, I was told by his
clerk that I was wanted in the employment office. Within 20 minutes,
I was fired and escorted out of the UA premises.
I tried court, but could not afford my own attorney and was not
entitled to union representation as I was not in a protected job
class. I stood on my own in front of the Northern Illinois magistrate
judge, with all the facts and memos clearly reported, thinking that
the truth would be enough. UA came at me with their top brass:
Mayer, Brown and Platt, who threatened me with a lawsuit if I told
anyone what happened. The judge ruled that the "format" was
incorrect and I lost my case.
My employment records from 1964-1977 and my companion pass payments
were somehow "lost" by UA, and the airline refused to ratify my
period of employment from 1977-1992, listing me for only 11 years
of service. Despite all my years with the company, I was left with
a pension of only $308.64
When I finally had to declare bankruptcy, I was told that UA would
not allow me any credit union assistance in the future. I did not
receive any UA retirement papers or companion passes. I was refused
medical support and could not pay for prescription drugs. In short,
UA left me stranded.
The bottom line is that I am a 65 year old disabled widow with no
medical coverage apart from Medicare. I lost my job, my husband,
and my UA friends, who were disallowed from meeting with me. I
have not been on UA premises since, as I am afraid I will be thrown
out.
This hurts... and it is time for others to know this happened. I
have all of the papers, memos, and reports to substantiate my story.
Anne M. Puccini
December 10, 2001
Is this where the federal bail-out went?
Ed: A photo submitted by one of our readers leads one to wonder
whether UAL has been spending a bit too much money re-painting
their planes with an appropriate logo.
While we initially believed that the image was a playful Photoshop job,
three UAL employees have assured us that it's the "real deal." One
worker comments:
"If you don't already know the original logo was taped over with the correct
color tape into the UNTIED logo about 2 weeks ago. It was removed last
wednesday and the boss wants to know who did this against FAA regulations!
Though he is correct, some people have no sense of humor."
Diary of frustrated flight attendants
Ed: Whether or not the public display of this information at Untied.com
helped embarass UAL into taking some action is irrelevant -- we're glad
that someone finally got the message!
April 30, 2001
Thank you for posting the information I gave
you about the rape of a United
Airlines flight attendant at The Westin Bonaventure crew layover hotel.
Ironically, just days after you posted the info on your site, United execs
seemed to do an about face and were searching for new crew layover hotel
options. Previously, they had deemed the crew layover hotel safe, despite a
rape of a flight attendant, an assault of a flight attendant just outside of
the hotel, and another incident involving a tourist videotaping flight
attendants while they worked out at the hotel gym, and made it perfectly
clear to our union that they intended to take no action what-so-ever
regarding changing our crew layover hotel in L.A.
After the information was posted, UAL management stated that they were doing
everything in their power to move us. What do you think of that???
The good news is that it has been announced that a suspect has been
apprehended in Los Angeles. He is neither a UAL employee nor was he ever a
Westin Bonaventure hotel guest.
I would like to thank you for your help in getting our layover hotel in L.A.
changed. I have no doubt that Untied.com had a big hand in getting United
to take action. I had a feeling 'Big Brother' would be watching, and would
be quite embarrassed to learn that the public has been informed of how they
treat their (valued???) employees.
Thank you, again.
A Grateful United Airlines Flight Attendant
April 15, 2001
In early March, a United Airlines flight attendant was assaulted at one
of the crew layover hotels, the
Westin Bonaventure in Los Angeles. The Association of Flight Attendants
(the union representing UAL flight attendants) demanded that UAL
remove flight attendants from the Westin
immediately but the airline first wanted to have United Security
review the hotel for security measures.
As of mid April, United has deemed the Westin 'safe' for
flight attendants, despite the rape, despite the fact
that the rapist has not been apprehended, and
despite another assault recently occuring outside the same hotel.
According to the union website, "Now we have an incident of a
tourist, who wasn't even staying at the hotel, videotaping
flight attendants in the workout room, and the Westin managers
think nothing of it."
From the union website:
Ed: Some passenger stories are just begging to be shared in agonizing detail with
the rest of the traveling public. Here's how United treated one such
passenger, Mr. Jeremy Baumann, who was traveling from Los Angeles to
New York (La Guardia), and who was not only rudely insulted and lied to
repeatedly, but had his digital camera and medication stolen. Do you
think the airline would feel obligated to compensate Mr. Baumann?
February 17, 2001
Ed: Lest anyone mistakedly credits the rude UAL agent
with originality, the above is an old joke, involving a new freshman at
Princeton who asks a stuffy senior, "Excuse me my good man, but can you tell
me where the library is at?" which evokes the derisive reply, "We
at Princeton do not end our sentences in a preposition." to which the
freshman responds, "Alright then, can you tell me where the library is at,
asshole?"
Last we checked, Dulles and La Guardia were both in the U.S.
You asked us to re-examine your request and we've done so. All things
considered, we do support our earlier decision. The good will offer [$100
travel voucher] was not
intended as compensation commensurate with your dissatisfaction. It was
offered strictly in the interest of good customer relations. Your opinions
and feedback about our operation will be very helpful to us during our
efforts to provide better service. We hope you will reconsider and give
United the opportunity to regain your trust. It is our genuine desire to
provide service that will make United your airline of choice in the
future.
Sincerely,
IVM/ca
March 11, 2001
I'm sorry to learn that you are missing a digital camera and your Clariton
pills, which you had stored in an overhead bin. In hurrying to leave an
aircraft, other passengers sometimes accidentally remove someone else's
belongings. United's policy includes responsibility only for checked
baggage; it does not include responsibility for missing items on the
aircraft.
Thank you for allowing me to comment. We look forward to serving you on a
United flight in the near future.
Viktor Martin
IVM/ca
Ed note: Once again, demonstrating that United still hasn't managed
to hire customer service representives with
basic reading or writing skills,
nor a memory that extends beyond a few days, Mr. Martin doesn't
appear to remember that Mr. Baumann left his belongings on
board because he was not allowed back on the plane!
A less generous interpretation,
of course, is that Mr. Martin deliberately omitted this
critical piece of information in his reply, since doing so would
be an admission of liability.
March 25, 2001
February 21, 2001
We include here the text of a recent letter received from a
United Airlines captain:
As a United Captain I'm sick and tired of flying with low time Black and Women Pilots who can't fly the goddamn airplane. When
management pencil whips the training records of these morons, people like me have to pick up the slack.
The paying passengers who fly with us expect to have qualified pilots, not minorities who simply are hired to meet the EEOC'S
three-fourths rule: high school diplomas and 350 hours total flying time don't make in Chicago ORD in a winter snow storm. Get the
goddamn black and white women [expletive deleted] out of Human Resources in Denver and put hiring back into the hands of White
Pilots who know who should be hired.
Untied.com does not wish to promote racist attitudes and takes
exception to the pilot's language. However, we have included the
letter here because it illustrates several important points:
The thinly veiled suggestion by the UAL Captain that all women and
minorities are bad pilots is of course absurd. The fact that
a UAL Captain would even make such a remark is disturbing in itself.
However, as other UAL insiders have commented, there is little doubt
that through its long-standing tradition of preferential hiring, United
willfully puts passengers at risk.
If, in order to meet quotas, United is putting less qualified pilots
at the controls during passenger flights, this is simply unconscionable.
Under normal circumstances, one good pilot can generally compensate for
another who may be defficient. However, during an
emergency, when both pilots are operating at their full capacity, this is not
the case and passengers' lives are unnecessarily put at risk.
Assuming that UAL was truly interested in supporting women and
minorities, they might consider:
As we did when other safety questions were
raised about United Airlines,
Untied.com again challenges UAL to
rebut these charges and discuss the
pilot's concerns through dialogue at our site -- in an open and public forum.
September 8, 2000
From a recent
UAL Press Release:
United Airlines Opens $4.5 Million State-of-the-Art Reservations Center In
Honolulu, Hawaii
CHICAGO, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today announced that it
will open its newly renovated Reservations office in Honolulu, Hawaii, on
Sunday, September 10th. The facility will accommodate an additional 200
employees -- part of the company's commitment to the State of Hawaii.
``United invested approximately $4.5 million dollars in this new
reservations call center,'' said Norm Reeder, United Airlines
managing director-Hawaii.
``This facility is equipped with the latest technology, from
top-of-the-line computer equipment to new multimedia conference rooms.
This is another example of United's commitment to Hawaii's future as
a key destination for both business and pleasure.''
``The new state-of-the-art facility will help our employees continue
to develop United's reputation of providing exemplary customer service,''
Reeder added.
Perhaps Mr. Reeder doesn't get out of his office much these days --
in which case, he can be excused for missing the
advertisements his own airline is running, in which CEO
Goodwin himself apologizes for United's service (see below), or
the most recent DOT performance statistics
that show UAL to be at the bottom of the customer service basket in
terms of passenger complaints. Exemplary customer service? Who
are you trying to fool?
NEW YORK, Aug 24 (Reuters) - United Airlines said it would begin
airing a 30-second television advertisement in which its Chairman James
Goodwin apologises for inconveniences suffered over the past few weeks.
Chicago-based United, owned by UAL Corp. (NYSE:UAL), has already
apologised and admitted operational failures in newspaper ads
around the country.
September 1, 2000
United Flight Attendants Filing for Picketing Permits
at Airports Around the World
Airline's Abuse of Flight Attendants Rampant
Informational Pickets to be set up in 12 U.S. cities, 7 countries
around the world
Washington, DC -- Abuse of flight attendants by United Airlines
management has driven flight attendants to apply for picketing permits
at airports around the world, including those in United's base cities:
Boston, Chicago, Denver, Honolulu, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Miami, New
York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, Washington, DC, Frankfurt
(Germany), Hong Kong, London (England), Narita (Japan), Paris (France),
Santiago (Chile), Taipei (Taiwan).
United's flight attendants,
represented by the Association of Flight Attendants, AFL-CIO, will
begin informational picketing in the coming days. The protests are
aimed at management's systematic abuse of its front-line employees who
have suffered through the airline's infamous summer of delays and
cancellations.
"Flight attendants stood by United in its summer of
turmoil," said Linda Farrow, President of the AFA Master Executive
Council at United. "In return, management has wreaked havoc on our
family and personal lives by systematically breaking the rules it has
agreed to in our contract and by heavy-handed discipline. Now we're
fighting back."
In preparation for the protests, flight attendant
leaders have torn down bulletin boards in crew lounges and replaced
them with screaming green signs that read, "We are mad as hell and we
are not going to take it anymore."
Flight attendants have taken their
fight directly to United CEO Jim Goodwin. Linda Farrow and MEC
Secretary Treasurer Bobbie Pilkington met with Goodwin on August 29 and
demanded that abuses and contract violations stop immediately. Farrow
also demanded that discipline doled out (including letters in employee
files, suspensions and termination) during the airline's "critical
coverage" period be rescinded and employees made whole. United's abuses
also include:
Jul 24, 2000
Ed: Kindly contributed by Joel Snow:
Thought you might enjoy this. I was waiting for a United flight from Tulsa
last week when they announced over the PA that there was a mechanical
delay with the aircraft in Denver. After a 3 hour wait, our aircraft
arrived from Denver. I began talking with the flight crew who were
waiting with the rest of us to board the plane and they informed me
that the mechanics were delaying flights on purpose, as their contract
had recently expired. Just then, over the PA came another announcement
that there would be another "short delay" so the mechanics could make an
additional repair to the exterior of the aircraft. I looked outside and
saw what you see in the attached picture: a mechanic using duct tape to
secure the nose cone onto the body of the plane. I got out my digital
camera to save the moment for posterity.
Ed: As mentioned throughout the site, we endeavour to be fair to UAL, and
when readers provide corrections to articles or complaints, we post
these as soon as possible. Here's a response we received from Jim Bentley
regarding the photo, above:
I am writing in respose to your feature of the week dated Jul 24, 2000 from
Joel Snow. The article states that mechanics are delaying flights on
purpose, this is not true. What mechanics are doing is replying to
mechanical complaints from the pilots. Mr. Snow states that a UAL mechanic
is "duct taping" the nose cone. What Mr. Snow saw was a mechanic doing what
is standard maintenance pratice in the industry. When there is a complaint
which involves vibration, squealing or other noises that can not be
verified on the ground we seal the suspected source with a special metal
tape. After each flight a small section of this tape is removed until the
source or area is found and can be properly repaired. Also what you see is
not a UAL mechanic but one that is contracted by UAL to perform maintenance
at stations where UAL mechanics are not employed, as is the case in Tulsa.
May 4, 2000
Ed: This comes from a UAL-insider, exposing, yet again, how things
get done at United Airlines.
With the pilots contract coming up, they have been a little bit more
nit-picky when it comes closer to departure time, and usually over
something petty. Also coming up soon is our stockholder's meeting;
there will be some incentives for management to get bonuses based on
the on-time performance.
Management here in SFO, as a result, has done some serious overreaction to
both of these. We have now been having to close the doors on the planes
earlier. This causes a lot of problems---gives us only three minutes
to clear all standby passengers, plus with printing the crew papers
early, this also gives the flight attendants insufficient information
on the premiers/special needs passengers--if they are not shown as being
checked in.
At the same time, we do stay with the 10-minute cutoff. So, sometimes we
have to "jump the gun" and release the seats early(which, technically,
we are not supposed to do), which does cause some problems. Or leave
standby passengers behind.
For one thing, the agents resent the fact that we have to leave some
employees behind. But pass-riding is a privlidge and not a right. That
is not really the issue; we are leaving people with paid tickets who
are on standby behind, due to time constraints.
We are rushed. We are leaving people who have bought tickets behind. We
are not giving good customer service. And this is all because of the
overreaction of the management here in San Francisco.
There are enough problems with construction, runways, and air traffic
control---SFO has a really bad reputation. SFO will also be a zoo due
to more international flights this summer, but at the same time, the
new customs facility will not be open until September. The last thing
we need to do is to inconvenience the passengers further.
Management at SFO is way out of line by imposing these unrealistic time
frames on flight close-outs.
Let's have all employee-owners vote AGAINST the proposals and the
retention of the board of directors.
April 26, 2000
Ed: This writeup comes from Doc Searls'
cluetrain WebLog for Tuesday, April 25, describing the keynote talk given
at the
Futurize West event held on April 20-21 in Napa, California.
Go fly yourselves: At last week's first (also enlightening and
fun) Futurize West event in Napa Valley, a number of very clueful
people took to the stage. The first was Dr. Jeremy Cooperstock [...]
who maintains the Untied Airlines site, which gleefully exposes the
persistent cluelessness of United Airlines. These range from
run-of-the-jetway customer complaints to the scary safety concerns
expressed by a former pilot. Most remarkable is United's apparently
resolute oblivity to the extensive substance of the Untied site.
By contrast, a friend of mine had one bad experience with Southwest
Airlines, wrote to its president, Herb Kelleher, and promptly got back
a free ticket with a personal letter of apology. A rather clueful
difference.
Ed: Either our reply tracking system at Untied.com has motivated a change
at UAL or congratulations are due to Larry D. DeShon, Vice President of
Customer Satisfaction at United Airlines. Shortly after taking on this
new position at the airline, customer complaints are now being answered
in a somewhat different manner. Perhaps Mr. DeShon recognizes that
form letter replies to customer complaints are often
unsatisfactory (gee, we could have told him that two years
ago). Here's the text of a reply letter a former passenger recently
received:
Thank you very much for writing about your recent experience with our
airline. On behalf of United Airlines, I sincerely apologize for
the delay in our response.
We want to offer you our sincere apologies for the dissatisfaction
you've expressed. Because we're presently in the process of converting
our computer equipment used in responding to customers, we're unable to
give you a personalized reply which we would prefer. We can assure you
your letter will be brought to the attention of appropriate management
and your issues placed on file with our Customer Relations Department.
Every effort will be made to correct service problems so that we can
serve you better.
Please return this message with your name(s) and mailing address. I
will be happy to work with our Customer Relations Department to make
sure you are sent a more tangible expression of our apology. Your
business is important to United and we hope it will come in hand and
allow us an opportunity to provide more acceptable service.
Sincerely,
Ed: Sounds promising? We're not so sure. Why does United Airlines
have to change their computer equipment in order to generate "personalized"
replies? Since their old reply letters used to include the individual's
name, we can assume that they already had keyboards available... what
more do they need?
Ed: Some UAL-supportive letters are too good to ignore.
I hope you respond to this. If you don't, it would prove you are a coward. If
you are saying United really sucks in service, good for you (sarcastically).
My mother is a flight attendant for United and has been for 35 YEARS. United
is a good airline, aside from the occasional bad breakfast in coach. I have
flown United about 20-40 times and they are a good airline. Pretty good
seats, service is great, the people on the flights take care of you. And by
the way, the UAL Flight Attendant Union didn't take part in buying UAL. They
are friendly. Some flight attendants (and that goes for every airline,
including United) are rude. I'm sorry to say it. In comment to delays, bad
weather. Hey buddy, their looking out for your sorry ass so you don't get in
a crash. Every airline has cancellations. Number one priority, SAFETY. No. 2,
if you're saying that all UAL employees are idiots with low temper and don't
care, you are one hell of a stupid ass redneck. My question is this: If you
bitch so much about United, just because you alone and about
1\124365387648659879457537 of passengers have had bad experiences, could be
do to this: 1. Stress. 2. Something bad happened. (goes for Flight
Attendants). My question is why make up a site that hates United all because
of your little problems? You probably even haven't flown them very often. One
more question: United is the largest US carrier, possibly biggest World
airline with more flights than any other airline and the 2nd largest fleet of
aircraft. All of this due to profits by customers, that being due to them
coming back and back and back. And if what you are saying is true (which it
isn't), then how can United strive, or even do well? Now don't think I'm some
asshole thinking I'm always right and anyone who says otherwise is wrong,
because I'm not. I also don't want you to think that you're right and I'm
just some dumbass who says otherwise. Just read it and send me back a
response, if you don't, you'll just prove what an ass you might be.
Sincerely,
Ed: Untied.com's response:
Mr. Foley,
If I were a UAL shareholder, I'd nominate you for a senior board position.
It is clear from your thoughtful and insightful analysis of the airline
industry in general, and passenger relations with United Airlines in
particular, that you are prime management material.
Should you succeed Mr. Goodwin in his role as CEO, or Mr. Kiker in
Advertising and Communications (a post in which your honesty and
openess concerning United's attitude toward its passengers would be a
valuable asset) it would help reassure me that
United is commited to hiring and retaining the best people for the job.
I'm sure the thousands of readers of this site would agree.
With best regards,
Jeremy Cooperstock
Ed: This is the text of a letter sent by United Airlines to the lawyer
representing the employees who were sexually harassed by a male
supervisor.
January 21, 2000
VIA Federal Express
Dear Mr. Donham:
We have received your proposed severance agreements for [...].
We have carefully considered the proposed agreements as well as the
facts surrounding your clients' claims. It is United's position that
we took prompt, effective, remedial action with regard to your clients.
We therefore decline to enter into these or other severange agreements.
Our internal investigations have been completed, as we told you in
our meeting of December 21, 1999. There will be no arbitration of
the decision made with regard to [...] who is no longer employed at
this company.
We encourage your clients to return to their jobs at United and believe
that they will find those jobs rewarding, safe and free of harassment or
retaliation of any kind.
Ed: Given the experiences of other
former UAL employees
this reassurance may seem somewhat hollow.
If they wish to return to return to work and
then immediately begin a transfer process, we will work with your clients
to find jobs for which they are qualified elsewhere in the company.
As we discussed on December 21, 1999, United employes more than 100,000
employees in numerous locations.
If your clients wish to return to their former jobs, or to return and
then request competitive transfers to other United jobs for which they
are qualifed, please tell them to call [...] on or before Tuesday,
February 15, 2000.
If we have not heard from you on behalf of your clients by 5:00 p.m. CST
on Friday, February 25, 2000, we will consider your clients to have
resigned from United Airlines effective Monday, Feburary 28, 2000.
Yours very truly,
Nancy J. Gordon
Ed: More feedback following the announcement:
I wanted to voice my concerns over what has happened at United Airlines. I
am just a passenger and do not work the for carrier. It looks like
United has a big problem on their hands. Reading all of the employee and
passenger posts has opened my eyes. Does the company have any policy in
place with a stance against sexual harassment? If they do it does not look
like it is working? I hate to admit it but this website makes it clear
that UAL is the poster child of sexual harassment - - shame on you United.
I am an employee of United Airlines and am here to say sexual harassment at
United Airlines is nothing new. There are many woman I know who work out on
the ramp who are the victims of sexual harassment. Any employee will attest
to the fact that when you goto the bathrooms, there is nothing but smut and
garbage etched all over the bathroom walls depicting woman as sex objects. If
I had a dollar for every time I saw a woman get grabbed or touched, I would
be rich. The supervisors even take part in the sickness by "joking around" in
a disgusting way by grabbing each others butts and laughing. What kind of
message does that send to the employees? I think more people need to step
forward, it's about time!
I just looked at the newspaper and saw the charges filed against the
company. I half believed this happened until I found this website and
read about other peoples stories. I do not know if United reads this
website because if they do not, they should. The letter that United sent
to the attorney representing these men is very disturbing. I did not see
any compassion on the part of the company for what I know must have been
very embarrassing for these employees. I am writing a letter to United's
customer service department about this and asking them to explain how
something like this could happen. I and my family are totally disgusted.
I have stock in United Airlines and read about this on the Yahoo
website. As a woman who knows what it is liked to put up with sexual
harassment, I was sickened to read about this incident. What is very
disturbing to me is the lack of concern for these employees.
How can a company say it is safe to return to work and at the same time
try and force a transfer (according to the United Letter). My family
and I always flew United but after hearing about this I think we will
be looking elsewhere. I also read about how other employees are treated
on this site and it made me sick.
I just want to comment on the letter that Nancy Gordon wrote from
United Airlines to these men that were harassed at work. I looked at
the letter and thought WHAT A JOKE! From the news article it seems these
employees were attacked by a sick individual! United has the nerve to try
and say now that there work environment will be "free of harassment". Did
you see an apology in the letter from the company about what happened? I
didn't. I would not send my dog to work at that company. I am calling
United today and transferring my milage plus miles to another partner
carrier. There is no way I would endorse such a company.
Please do not use my name but after reading how five male employees
came forward after they were sexually harassed, I have decided to step
forward too and will be going down to the EEOC on Tuesday with another
employee. I was sexually harassed by a supervisor at United and
reported it and the airline did nothing about it. Thanks for letting us
know that we do not have to be afraid anymore.
I do not want to say who I am but I am one of many female employees who
work at O'Hare and sexual harassment on the ramp is no stranger. I have
told the company several times about this problem and I always get
ignored!
I read about how five men were sexually harassed by UAL in the
newspapers and now on this website. I think it is just terrible what
happened to these men. After reading the other stories on this website
about sexual harassment at United, it is clear to me that this company
does not care about its employees. Maybe once the Federal Government
investigates them, United will treat people better. I will never fly
this airline againt after reading about this.
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LESSON TWO: PASS THE BUCK. UNITED IS GOOD AT THAT
LESSON THREE: I HAD ORDERED IT
The four wives had a face to face meeting with the CEO of UA (Creighton?) to
resolve these issues. They were refused on all counts, Creighton saying that
there were 'tax issues' involved.
Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:24:38 AM America/Montreal
CC: Aviation Consumer Protection Division
Counsel
United Airlines
World Headquarters
1200 Fast Algonquin Road
Elk Grove Township, Illinois 60007
U. S. Department of Labor Suite
400 Techworld Building
800 K Street
Washington, D.C. 20001-8002
Telephone: 202/693-7542
Facsimile: 202/693-7385
U.S. Department of Labor-OSHA
1999 Broadway Suite 1690
P.O. Box 48556
Denver, Colorado 80201-6550
Regional Administrator
Region VIII
Chief Administrative Law Judge
Federal Aviation Administration
USDOL/SOL
A quick wrap-up of the current situation:
Unless you are able to return to work or an extension is granted
you will be separated from UAL effective 5/16/96.
I recently talked to another attorney and his comment was that "It sounds
like the IAM is in collusion with the company, and that's very unusual."
He was referring to the fact that the Union was agreeing to include a
rather damning medical report of Jan. 1997 -- -almost 9 months after
my termination.
UA FILE NO. 040475
AFA has formally filed a grievance over United's refusal to move us out of
the disapproved Westin Bonaventure in downtown Los Angeles. AFA MEC Hotel
Chair Libby Sherman has sent a strongly worded letter to Ed Tolle on the
matter, stating that we should have been moved out of the hotel when this
horrendous crime occurred. Since then, there has been yet another physical
assault. We've already hit rock bottom; what does it take to get us a safe
downtown hotel? If you do have a downtown LAX layover, you do not have to go
to the Westin hotel. Extra rooms have been reserved at two airport hotels.
Contact your briefing supervisor, the crew desk or OPB, and get a safer
place to stay."
Diary of a frustrated passenger
March, 2001
Ed: This is, of course, hardly an unexpected level of discourse
from someone paid minimal wage for their grade ten
education.
Ed: Mr. Baumann hasn't read much of other
passengers' stories on Untied.com. UAL frequently denies passengers boarding,
even when they are at the gate well in advance of a scheduled departure.
Unfortunately, in this case, the airline can claim that passengers are
advised to be at the gate 30 minutes prior to departure, even if these were
not, in fact, the instructions given to Mr. Baumann.
Ed: On occasion, speaking with UAL agents
can feel a lot like dealing with the underworld.
Ed: While UAL is ordinarily very good at
keeping their truly competent employees at a safe distance from customers,
it seems they failed to do so on this occasion, as Ms. Garcia was able
to intervene successfully on the passenger's behalf, despite the
best efforts of agents at Dulles.
Ed: From UAL's own web site:
Please note that reservations are subject to cancellation if you
are not available for boarding at the gate at least 10 minutes
prior to departure for flights between U.S. points, 20 minutes
to/from Canada/Mexico and the Caribbean, and 30 minutes
to/from all other International points.
February 18, 2001
Ed note: Mr. Martin should spend a few minutes reading
Untied.com.
Ed note: For those who think those $100 coupons are
valuable, we challenge you to trade these in for cash.
February 23, 2001
February 28, 2001
Thank you for contacting us again. I'm sorry you're dissatisfied with my
previous response.
Viktor Martin
Customer Relations
ref#: 717958C
Ed note: Isn't that like a thug who beats you up, then gives you his
business card in case you want another round? As we said before
about United and the underworld...
March 14, 2001
Thank you for contacting us about your flight to New York City. I
appreciate the opportunity to respond.
Customer Relations
ref# 717958D
Ed note: Will Ms. Harvill and company
stick to their guns and wait for Mr. Baumann to collect in
small claims court, or will they be a little more media-savvy and
settle quickly? Stay tuned to find out...
While many of us might agree in general with a policy that gives women
and minorities preferential treatment for job positions, even if their
qualifications are lower than white males, this may not be the case
when the job is a safety-critical one. For example, when it comes to
choosing the surgeon who is operating on your heart or the captain who
is flying your plane, most of us would probably prefer the best
qualified individual at the controls.
AFA, the world's largest flight attendant union, represents the
25,000 United Airlines flight attendants.
April 19, 2000
Amy
April 1, 2000
Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:18:57 EST
Ryan Foley
Untied.com.
March 2000
Cary E. Donham, Esq.
Shefksy and Froelich Ltd.
444 North Michigan Avenue
Chicago, Illinois 60611
Senior Counsel - Litigation
Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:35:25 -0800 (PST)
Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:26:03 EST
Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:00:00 -0800 (PST)
Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:24:12 -0800 (PST)
Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:27:08 -0800 (PST)
Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:36:00 -0800 (PST)
Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:43:27 -0800 (PST)
Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:37:56 -0800 (PST)
Ed: Ever wonder why the quality of United Airlines' Customer Relations
seems to be somewhat lacking? Take a look at the following internal
job posting, provided courtesy of an anonymous UAL employee, for our
entertainment. Thank you!
THIS IS A TEMP POSITION
Performs as a team member of the correspondence center to assist in resolving customer complaints, compliments and inquiries. Monitors trends and maintains established productivity standards. Investigates matters and determines what action can be taken to serve customers needs, promote good will and influences customer intent to repurchase, as appropriate. Approves compensation and settlements, within delegated authority. Provides other assistance regarding customer relations functions, as appropriate.
Education: Tenth grade completion.
Experience: Two years of public contact work with strong written and verbal skills, proficiency in keyboarding and automated systems.