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From creative.net!mkruger Wed Sep 11 18:46:54 1996
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Dear Mr. Cooperstock and Vinita N. D'Souza:

I am writing you in response to your letter written to United Airlines dated 13 June 96. As I understand your comments written about the quality of service you recieved from United Airlines, I want to point out some errors you made.

First, you've mentioned that you arrived at the check in counter, located in terminal 3 of the Toronto airport, 45 minutes before departure. That amount of time is very average, and in fact quite good. You are indeed taking an international flight! I believe you are warned to be at the airport 90 minutes to 120 minutes before departure time now days.

I mention this because of new security measures implemented by governments to counteract terrorist. I've read in the paper where agents must check everyone's passports for proper documentation, in your case, isn't it Japan? Furthermore, agents must match the tickets with the foto ID, ask certain security questions pertaining to the contents of their baggage, and give detailed directions to the departing gate.

Secondly, you've mentioned about an annoucement made in Chinese with regard to your delayment. I find this really hard to believe comming from a country as yours where the majority of the population is either English or French speaking. You say the announcement was made in Chinese. And why Chinese? At the very least, one would figure at least Japanese.

I feel you simply didn't pay attention to the announcements compounded by your ignorance to show up the airport an hour before departure caused your panic situation towards the Air Canada's terminal.

I should also mention that Air Canada's response to your situation, as you put it, "she somehow managed to re-route us via Air Canada's flight to Los Angelos," is a bit much to take. Don't you think that maybe United put something in your computer reservation stating authorization to issue tickets to you for travel to San Francico as originally planned? They are, after all, code share partners. Aren't they? Therefore, they are supposed to have a ticketing agreement, aren't they? I believe some blame here needs to be addressed to Air Canada's delay in getting you on the fight to San Francisco.

I even bet United Airlines had to rebook you From Los Angelos to Tokyo? They incurred this cost too? Didn't They?

Fourthly, What is even more appauling, Is you and your party do the same thing over again in Honolulu. I would have at least thought you would have said that you checked in two hours before departure. But, no sir, once again, you mention you showed up again an hour before departure. You've mentioned that your seats were re-arranged. I would say after reading your story that you lost your pre-assigned seats because of your ignorance again of showing up late to the flight. They probally dropped your seats and gave your seats to other individuals.

Mr. Cooperstock, Mrs Vinita N. D'Souza, I'll let you in on a little secret. All airlines oversell they're seats by only a margin around 20 percent. This is because there are a certain percentage of people who simply do not show up for the flight or who simply arrive LATE....

In all fairness to you, I believe you were indeed diserviced by the handling of your garment bag. It is misfortunate that your garment was permently creased. However the kind gesture by United Airlines to provide you with 200 hundred US dollars of flight credit should be enough to compensate you.

Mr. Cooperstock, Vinita N. D'Souza, I would like to mention to you about the method you went about broadcasting your incedent on the WEB...It made you both, your education institute, and your country aware of how much you don't travel. I reccomend you remove it as soon as possible in order to save your self some credibility

In the near future, I reccomend you simply arrive to the airport earlier....

Sincerely,

Michael Kruse
San Jose State Univesity
Student-Aviation


Ed note: My reply follows.

Dear Mr. Kruse,

As I noted earlier on my Web pages, I found it interesting to receive both your note and the very similar one from "John" only two hours apart, especially considering that your note contains John's e-mail address in its message path! Whether this is merely coincidence or some curious attempt at humour, I have no idea, but since your two letters are almost identical, I assume you and John can also share the effort of reading my reply to him. I will save you the time of re-reading the same material and simply address the points that only you raised. For completeness though, I include my reply to John, below, to answer the points that you both raised.

For some reason, you wish to blame Air Canada for their "delay in getting [us] on the fight to San Francisco." Whether or not "United put something in [our] computer reservation stating authorization to issue tickets to [us] for travel to San Francico" is irrelevant. The problem, as we stated, was that United made no efforts to ensure we would have sufficient time to catch this flight. By the time we arrived at the Air Canada gate, the flight had already left. How you find that Air Canada delayed us is beyond me.

Your next comment was that "I even bet United Airlines had to rebook you From Los Angelos [sic] to Tokyo? They incurred this cost too? Didn't They?" The Air Canada agent rebooked us on an LA-Tokyo flight on United Airlines at the same time that she booked our Toronto-LA flight. As for any cost that United incurred, it would not have been for the LA-Tokyo leg, since our purchased ticket with United included SF-Tokyo, an almost equivalent fare.

Ignoring the illogic of these points you raised, what strikes me as most amusing is your suggestion that "the kind gesture by United Airlines to provide [us] with 200 hundred US dollars of flight credit should be enough to compensate [us]" for the damage to my wool suit. As you are in a Student-Aviation department of a respected North American university, I would hope that you can distinguish the difference between a flight credit and actual compensation. While the latter would have been appreciated, the former would require me to spend several hundred dollars (if not several thousand dollars, considering that I am now living in Japan), of my own money in order to make use of it.

Criticizing us for speaking out about our shoddy treatment by a major airline, after two polite attempts at writing the airline directly, indicates the lack of value you hold for the right of free speech. That right, Mr. Kruse, is what gives us the ability to inform others about the service we received from United Airlines, just as it gives you the ability to respond to our messages in whatever manner you feel appropriate.

Sincerely,
Jeremy Cooperstock


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