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Denver Post
More travelers let fly on airline gripe site
Sept. 17, 2000 - Their summer travel plans may have
been grounded by the Friendly Skies, but that didn't stop thousands of
angry fliers from taking off on United Airlines - in cyberspace
complaint forums.
As technology merges with temper, chronic flight
delays and improbable excuses have moved more and more passengers - and
frustrated employees - to the ranks of point-and-click protesters.
Traffic on Untied.com, a Web site that three years ago
transposed two letters of the company name and started fielding flier
complaints and employee beefs, spiked dramatically during August.
Jeremy Cooperstock, an assistant professor at
Montreal's McGill University who launched the site, said that from July
to August visits to the site increased nearly 180 percent to more than
33,000.
The Untied.com phenomenon mirrors the online trend in
consumer activism that has caught on with the disgruntled flying public
this summer travel season.
NorthworstAir.org has been a magnet for criticism of
Northwest Airlines since the carrier broke a Michigan inventor's laptop
computer and gave him "the classic bureaucratic runaround" that inspired
him to found the site.
Ronald Riley, who devoted an estimated 200-300 hours
to creating the Northworst site last spring, says he has spent far more
time and money on it than it cost him to replace his computer. But he
keeps it going for one simple reason.
"I'm an activist," he says. "And to be frank, it's not
just Northwest, it's the whole airline industry." Hence, the more
all-encompassing AirlinesSuck.com, created by Washington importer Brian
Swain from "the ashes of crushed business trips and spoiled vacations,"
to press for passenger rights.
PassengerRights.com - a site claiming to be "the
unbiased proponent of change" - offers a form in which consumers can
complain electronically about almost any travel-related problem, and
have it forwarded to the proper individual. Airline troubles account for
87 percent of the complaints, according to the site.
At the very least, Riley says, Internet sites like
those that rail against the airlines provide a sense of validation for
irate customers who know they suffered bad service but have no way of
knowing that they're not alone in their frustration.
Web sites not only expand the complainer's audience
exponentially from word of mouth, but they also provide resources that
may help a consumer take action. Optimists see potentially broader
implications.
"I want to see passenger rights legislation," says
Riley. "I think we need to codify how the airlines should act when they
fail to deliver service. You can only tick off customers for so long.
Then you get an inertia built up. And by the time you realize it, it's
too late." Cooperstock contends that his Web site, which allows fliers
and employees to register their complaints and even forward them
directly to United, has helped chart a nation's discontent with its
largest carrier.
But he acknowledges that it hasn't affected airline
policy.
"It's not doing much in terms of shaping it,"
Cooperstock says, "but it's a reflector of what public opinion is like.
I figure that for ev ery one complaint, 10 others were too apathetic to
do anything."
The airline itself avoids publicly criticizing the
site, other than to stress that the quickest way to air concerns and
possibly receive compensation is to contact United directly - through
its official site (www.ual.com), e-mail, telephone or traditional mail.
"It's much quicker if a third party is not involved,"
says company spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch. Regarding such sites' effect on
airline policy, he adds that United relies on its own independent
research to chart its corporate course.
"Our own customer relations department has technology
in place to track trends - not only to satisfy our customers' concerns,
but to look at larger trends in the industry and the company and make
changes where appropriate," Ebenhoch says.
But sites like Untied.com and others that accept and
forward consumer complaints are impossible to ignore.
"Our concern is listening to our customers through
whatever vehicle they come to us," says Ebenhoch, "and some come to us
through those sites." But he says he's not aware of the company
monitoring the site. Cooperstock disagrees, particularly regarding the
portion of his site that features employee complaints. He claims more
than 500 of the site's August hits came from United Airlines
headquarters.
"I think they look at the site as a means to gauge
what the public is saying about them, to see what their own employees
are saying," says Cooperstock. "The employee pages get a lot of hits
from headquarters."
Recently, Cooperstock says, United headquarters has
been accessing the site about 17 times a day.
Though hardly predisposed toward consumer advocacy,
Cooperstock's pivotal United experience came during a Toronto-Tokyo trip
in 1996. He emphasizes that it wasn't the poor service but the
subsequent disregard for his complaints that gave rise to the Web site
that broke new ground in air travel consumer advocacy.
He posted what he called "Poor Show" pages linked to
his homepage at the University of Toronto. Over the next seven months,
about 30 people responded with their own gripes.
Cooperstock says he informed United about his Web
pages, and indicated a willingness to change his opinion of the airline
- and change his Web pages - if United saw fit to answer his concerns
with more than a form letter. He never got a satisfactory response.
But United did complain to the University of Toronto
about copyright infringement on his site, and he immediately took it
down. But then, he says, he was besieged by supporters asking him to
resurrect the complaint forum.
"That's where Untied.com came along," he says.
Maintaining the site has become a sporadic pursuit,
and Cooperstock has enlisted the help of a colleague - an English
literature professor - to wade through the complaints. He says he has
had offers from consumer groups to take over the site and would gladly
give it up if he felt a new arrangement would more effectively resolve
complaints or improve employee relations.
So far, the right offer hasn't come along. Cooperstock
continues to update the site, sometimes not touching it for a month,
other times devoting most of his weekend to revamping and revising.
"I felt a responsibility after a year and a half of
doing this," he says, "to keep up the pressure on a corporate behemoth
who didn't (care). The only reason I put time into it is, frankly,
because it's fun. It makes for good stories."
Cooperstock's Web site archives complaints from both
customers and employees and offers information on many related topics,
including a page that criticizes his own site. The pages appear within
the top 60 results for keywords "United Airlines" on search engines like
Google and Yahoo!
Untied.com also features a "customer relations
scoreboard" that tallies the number of complaints forwarded to United
and the number of replies from the airline.
Last figures: 2,731 complaints, 54 replies.
Cooperstock acknowledges that the reply figures are
inexact, in that he relies on the complainants to inform the Web site if
the airline does respond. But he contends that if customers are
sufficiently moved to file their complaint from his site, chances are
good they'll post United's reply, if they get one.
The site also has a page devoted to "success stories"
offered by travelers who reached some satisfactory resolution to
problems with the airline, sometimes after threats of legal action.
Even when they succeed, customers tend toward the
caustic. One wrote that he ultimately got reimbursed $129 for expenses
resulting from an overnight delay, and also received travel vouchers,
which he gave away "to people I don't like very much." As for his own
travels, Cooperstock steers clear of United when he can. On those
occasions when he has no choice, he says he has been recognized by
employees as the author of the Web site only once - with no visible
consequence.
Fox News
Corporate Apologies Aplenty...
It seems like the heads of major corporations have taken over the television airwaves.
There's president and CEO Jacques Nasser, replete with a crisp suit
and Australian accent, telling viewers that Ford Motor Co. is working
around the clock to replace recalled Bridgestone/Firestone tires on its
Explorer line of SUVs.
"I want all of our owners to know that there are two things that we never take
lightly: your safety and your trust," he says.
Flip the channel and you'll see United Airlines chairman and CEO James
E. Goodwin, looking like a regular passenger strolling a cabin aisle in a
shirt and tie, apologizing to travelers whose plans have been affected by
recent flight delays and cancellations.
"To deal with the problem," he says, "we're reducing our flight schedule so we don't make promises we can't keep."
These efforts to appease consumers may be part of Public Relations 101.
But do the mea culpa ads really work?
According to several advertising experts, it depends.
Section clipped for brevity.
But United's response, Bernstein said, is not nearly as effective. The
spot does not address the contract dispute and pilots' refusal to work
overtime, which caused the months-long mess. As well, the campaign is
too late: Though the problems began in April, print ads began running
in national newspapers in mid-August.
"That should have been done a long time ago," Bernstein said. "The
credibility's been so undermined now that I don't think there's anything
they can do."
William Berry, an associate professor of advertising at the University
of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, had a similar reaction.
"I think in the case of United, they seem to have been sluggish
in getting out of the starting gate, as if they buried their heads,"
he said. "Ford seems to have been much more thoughtful and responsible."
United representatives did not return phone calls seeking comment.
Section clipped for brevity.
And Jeremy Cooperstock, founder of Untied.com a Web site devoted to
bashing United Airlines said visitors have viewed the ads with "a great
deal of skepticism and cynicism."
"Talk is cheap," he said. "Let's see some action: either a rapid
return to improved service or some sort of cash settlement for passengers
who are inconv>enienced."
Tale Winds: On-Line Travel Newsletter
Want to Complain? Airline Haters Fight Back in Cyberspace
In 1996, Jeremy Cooperstock flew United Airlines to Tokyo. He was subject to
several of the indignities air travelers often face: he says his seat
assignments weren't honored, a garment bag was mishandled, and a flight
change almost caused him to miss a connection.
He penned a letter of complaint to United and didn't hear back. Seven
weeks later he wrote another letter and received a form reply.
Cooperstock, now a professor at Montreal's McGill University, acknowledges
the offenses were "trivial" and says what really irked him was United's
inadequate response to his grievances.
"I offered constructive criticism, and it's like they just put my
complaint in the round filing cabinet."
Concluding that writing to United was futile, Cooperstock set up a Web site
called Untied ( http://www.untied.com - note the spelling - it looks like
United but it's not) as a forum for disgruntled United passengers.
The response has been overwhelming. Every month about 17,000 people visit
the site, with 2,097 complaints logged and forwarded to United. The
centerpiece of the site is a collection of appalling accounts, ranging
from poor treatment for a man who suffered a heart attack to lack of
consideration for disabled fliers. Most are submitted by travelers,
but a few are filed anonymously by United employees.
Of course these stories are not verified. On the Net, people can say
whatever they want, and claim to be anyone. But if thousands are
taking the time to air their displeasure, a good number probably have
legitimate gripes. And United officials are listening, or at least
watching. The site logs about 100 visits a month from United employees.
United Airlines spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch says customers who have a comment
should contact the airline directly. Today they can do so through the Net
by visiting United.com and clicking "Contact United." The airline plans
to roll out a toll-free comment line soon, he added.
Ultimately, Untied is more than a rogue Web page where angry travelers
can vent. It's just one of many sites that have fundamentally altered
the relationship between companies and their customers. The Internet,
with its forums, chat areas, and mailing lists, has facilitated
conversations that were virtually impossible a decade ago.
"There are no secrets," states the Cluetrain Manifesto
( http://www.cluetrain.com ), a Net-age blueprint for ways companies
can talk to their clients. "The networked market
knows more than companies do about their own products. And whether the
news is good or bad, they tell everyone."
In other words, a few years ago an upset flier might have told 10 friends
about a bad customer service experience - today that person can tell
10,000 people online.
Rest of article clipped.
The Tuscaloosa News
WEB SITES WORTH WATCHING: Airline attacks abound online
The skies aren't as friendly as they used to be. Blame the food. Blame bad management.
Blame overworked employees for contributing to the general air of discontent and
outright rage in the sky these days.
Incidents of passenger rage are on the rise, as are flight delays, missed connections
and lack of food.
Add a maintenance crew strike, pilots working without a contract and increased
summer air travel, and you have a volatile mix just guaranteed to irritate the mildest of
travelers.
United Airlines in particular is having a bad summer of it. Last week, nearly 20 percent
of scheduled flights were grounded because their pilots refused to fly overtime without
a contract.
According to the New York Times, United passengers have been suffering the most.
Just a little over half the company's flights have arrived on time, and more than 300
United flights have been canceled since April, due to lack of pilots willing to fly overtime.
A survey taken by Airline Quality Rating 200 rated United the worst in customer
satisfaction (Southwest was rated the best).
Westword, a weekly paper in Denver (a United hub city) even held a "What United Did
to My Summer Vacation" contest in which people were asked to tell their most horrific
United Airlines story (www.westword.com/unitedairlines). The winning entry, by
reader Randy Roark, was a litany of missed connections and late arrivals that would
bring a frequent flyer to tears, as he recounts how he wound his way home for his
father's funeral.
Although this summer is bad for United, complaints about the airline have been endemic
for years, with passengers - many of them former United flyers who have vowed
never again - pointing out delays and employee insensitivity as main reasons they no
longer fly United, the largest U.S. carrier.
One forum for United malcontents is the Web site Untied.com (www.untied.com), which
encourages United customers to lodge their complaints and horror stories.
The site has been credited with launching the online complaint industry, according to its
creator, Jeremy Cooperstock, a professor of electrical engineering at McGill University
in Montreal.
"People are always happy to complain about airline travel," he said. "United's not the
only one that's terrible, but there is a fair share of legitimate criticism."
Ignoring customer complaints is a good example. It was the form-letter response to his
suggestions that prompted Cooperstock to launch Untied.com five years ago. Now, it's
possibly the most well-organized complaint site around, with stories divided up into
categories such as rudeness, misinformation, incompetence and special needs (for
passengers with disabilities who didn't receive service).
"There is a level of utter lack of concern for the bottom line: paying passengers,
especially those with special needs," Cooperstock said.
The site has become something of a personal vendetta for Cooperstock. He tracks the
number of complaints lodged with United (so far this year: 2,398) and the number of
apologies they've received (41). He lists the names of company management and
contact numbers for them, noting that the number for customer relations is not toll-free
(although, it should be noted, the one for refunds is).
"I started the site because they couldn't read," he said, simply. "I sent them two letters in
which I outlined a series of problems and suggestions, and the form letter they sent
back indicated they couldn't read."
A better response would have been an acknowledgement that they'd actually read the
letter. But, he claims, the company maintains a corporate arrogance in which blatant
disregard for customer satisfaction prevails.
"If UAL would reply to passenger letters with more than form letter drivel, that would be
nice," Cooperstock said. "But it comes from up high. The bigger you are, the more
arrogant you are and the more content to let things be."
People continue to fly the company and will continue to do so because it flies to so
many destinations for less money.
"I'm somewhat skeptical about anything changing at United," he said. "Right now the
lowest price beats all, but some people have had it."
Unhappy employees are endemic at United, Cooperstock said, citing the numerous
complaints he logs from employees.
"The emphasis I've seen is not concern for the passengers, but such an attitude
towards their own employees, that my own has taken a dramatic turn. At first I was just
a critic, but now I'm a critic of management. I'll fight along with the employees."
United, of course, denies it. According to company spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch,
problems at the airline have been due to bad weather, increased traffic and the pilots.
"We've had extraordinary challenges for the industry, and these make a bad situation
worse," he said. "We urge customers to contact us directly and try to address
problems. We're frustrated, because we'd rather people come to us directly."
He said customer complaints are always taken seriously, especially those complaints
that are sent online (www.united.com) and they have taken steps to improve the flight
experience, including better meals, bigger seats and better entertainment.
But most customers would gladly give up all those things if they could arrive at their
destinations on time (and with baggage intact).
Ebenhoch blames airport infrastructure and lack of capacity for that.
"Some problems affecting an ontime arrival are out of our control," he said.
He acknowledged that United does keep loose tabs on Untied.com, but says he doesn't
know how often company management looks at the site. According to Cooperstock,
who says he can tell when a hit comes from United because of the Internet provider
listed, it's a lot.
Since the pilots' work-to-rule tactic has been in effect, Cooperstock estimates the
number of complaints from United employees themselves has gone up proportionally.
"They can't stand management," he said. "They think we're in this together, and they
want United to improve their outlook."
Of course, not all employees are so dissatisfied (or the company wouldn't have any at
all).
"Any airline, when it gets negative press, gets a bad reputation," said Steven Lea Vell, a
former United pilot who retired from the company three years ago.
"United does a good job, and if I hadn't had to retire, I'd still be flying with them now.
United was good to me.
"One of the things that gets United in trouble is that they try to be in compliance with
FAA regulations, so it's really tightly run. They police everything."
Cooperstock said that's not so.
"There's a certain bean counting with regard to safety," he said.
After five years of what amounts to a vendetta against United, what airline would
Cooperstock favor?
"Um, no comment," he said, laughing.
Is United one of them?
"I think I shouldn't comment on that either."
San Francisco Examiner
Passenger Rights
THE FOLKS who watch the airline industry noticed something strange at the
end of last year: By most objective standards flight delays, lost
luggage, overbooked flights service by major U.S. airlines had improved,
according to U.S. Department of Transportation statistics.
And yet complaints tripled.
Blame it on that proliferating
and oh-so-easy venue for griping: the Internet. From Web sites targeting
specific airlines to industry-wide complaint forums to the federal
government itself, disgruntled passengers can now do more than complain
to everyone within earshot with a few key stroked they can share their
gripes with thousands.
One who did so was Jeremy
Cooperstock, a professor at Montreal's McGill University. Four years ago
he suffered what he thought was shoddy service at the hands of United
Airlines. His first letter of complaint drew no response; his second
brought only a form letter.
Concluding that writing to
United was futile, Cooperstock set up a Web site called Untied
(www.untied.com -- note the spelling -- it looks like United, but it's
not) as a forum for disgruntled United passengers.
The response has been overwhelming. Every month about 17,000 people
visit the site, with 2,097 complaints logged and forwarded to United. The
centerpiece of the site is a collection of truly appalling accounts,
ranging from poor treatment for a man who suffered a heart attack to lack
of consideration for disabled fliers. Most are submitted by travelers,
but a few are filed anonymously by United employees.
Of course, these stories are unverified. It's important to remember
that on the Net, people can say whatever they want, and can claim to
be just about anyone. But if thousands are taking the time to air their
displeasure, a good number probably have legitimate gripes. And United
officials are listening, or at least watching. The site logs about 100
visits a month from United employees.
United Airlines spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch says customers who have a
comment should contact the airline directly. Today they can do so through
the Net by visiting United.com and clicking ""Contact United.'' The
airline plans to roll out a toll-free comment line soon, he added.
Untied.com is one of a growing
number of sites that have fundamentally altered the relationship between
companies and their customers. The Internet, with its forums, chat areas
and mailing lists, has facilitated conversations that were virtually
impossible a decade ago.
"There are no secrets,'' states
the Cluetrain Manifesto (www.cluetrain.com) a Net-age blueprint for ways
companies can talk to their clients. ""The networked market knows more
than companies do about their own products. And whether the news is good
or bad, they tell everyone.'' In other words, a few years ago an upset
flier might have told 10 friends about a bad customer service experience;
today that person can tell 10,000 people online.
Rest of article clipped.
Washington Post
Logging on your gripes
Intro of article clipped.
While TravelProblems.com is characteristic of a growing number of
sites that mediate gripes for a fee, Jarashow also points out that
Elliott maintains that the method of complaint taken most seriously by the
airlines are--you were
expecting this--written letters, followed by faxes.
E-mails are just "easier to ignore," he says
airline representatives tell him.
Jeremy Cooperstock, an industry watcher who started
a United Airlines spoof site called
untied.com, which does take complaints about that
carrier, agreed that "airlines treat paper
complaints more seriously."
Remainder of article clipped.
US News and World Report
Travelers gain allies in spats with the airlines
Intro of article clipped.
While TravelProblems.com is characteristic of a growing number of
sites that mediate gripes for a fee, Jarashow also points out that
there are a number of gratis steps consumers can take. Complaint
options include airline-specific sites such as Delta-Sucks.com, as
well as the informative untied.com, which Jeremy Cooperstock
started after his travel misadventure on United Airlines. The site is
one of the best organized on the Web, offering a log of complaints
by date, steps for negotiating small-claims court, and a horror story
of the month. Most important, says Cooperstock: "United is our most
frequent visitor."
Rest of article clipped.
Ziff Davis: Smart Business
Smile: Your Company's Under Attack
Smart businesses are turning their harshest
critics into allies.
You're happily ego surfing,
searching the Net for the name of
your business, hoping to catch the
latest buzz. Then right in front of
you, in big blinking text, you see,
"You suck!"
If you're like presidential hopeful
George W. Bush, you might sic
the lawyers on the case and fume,
"There ought to be limits to freedom," as he did when
frustrated by the www.gwbush.com parody site.
Unfortunately, this approach is liable to blow up in your
face. And public perception is no less important in
business than in politics.
We spoke to everyone from corporate lawyers (who
wanted to remain anonymous) to disgruntled customers
running anticorporate sites (who were happy to get
attention), and the consensus was surprising. If you
want online ridicule to disappear, grit your teeth and
ignore the offending site, or‹better still‹grit your teeth
and do what you can to pacify unhappy customers. On
the other hand, if you're determined to make people on
the Internet hate you with a passion‹as has happened
with eToys in its domain dispute with the arts group
that owns eToy.com‹call out the legal goon squad.
Jeremy Cooperstock is the sort of customer most
businesses would love to have. Loyal to companies that
provide good service, a smart shopper, and willing to
spend money, Cooperstock personifies "good
demographics." There's only one problem: When he
feels he's been wronged, he's willing to make a lot of
noise about it.
Cooperstock runs the Untied Airlines Web site at
www.untied.com, a clearinghouse for complaints about
United Airlines. Originally set up to document United's
mishandling of his own complaint, the Untied site now
includes more than 1,400 tales of woe from visitors
around the Internet. Cooperstock started the site hoping
to get United's attention. He was successful. But rather
than dealing with his problem, Cooperstock claims,
United first dismissed his complaint, then moved on to
insulting him on Usenet and threatening him with legal
action.
Although at press time United Airlines spokesperson
Kurt Ebenhoch couldn't rule out legal action against
Cooperstock, he said, "We're sorry to hear that some of
our customers feel that they need to utilize this site to
address their concerns with us."
Cooperstock says, "The worst way [to deal with a site
like Untied] is to threaten the individual who sets up the
site, attempting to make it go away through intimidation
tactics. In case it's not obvious, that's what United did
[to me]."
Section clipped for brevity.
Consumers often feel that sending their complaint to a
company is like throwing a pebble at a black hole,"
Tweito says. "Companies should locate these
consumers and try to placate them. If they don't try or
don't succeed, that one consumer can generate a lot of
ill will toward the company using the multiplying power
of the Internet."
Cooperstock agrees: "[You have to] provide support and
assistance to your customers and work with them to
resolve complaints rather than simply dismissing them.
By doing so, this encourages constructive dialogue
rather than driving customers to set up such sites as a
means of getting the company's attention."
Daily Herald
Wrath of Web sites:
Relevant excerpt below:
"They (United Airlines officials) are dismissive of (my) site," said Jeremy
Cooperstock, a professor at McGill University in Montreal and founder of
untied.com. "Yet they threaten legal action against me every few months.
They monitor it all the time. And about 1 percent of our visitors are from
United."
The companies concede they do watch what is said about them online. Many
large corporations hire services to scan the Web for references to their
name and logo, or libelous comments. Cooperstock said he had to redesign his
page after threat of a copyright infringement suit.
Undeterred, however, more and more such sites seem to be popping up.
Journal of Communication Management
Stakeholder communication management on the Internet: An integrated matrix for the identification of opportunities
Article unavailable.
Westword Online
Off Limits: Mission unprofitable
Intro of article clipped.
While TravelProblems.com is characteristic of a growing number of
sites that mediate gripes for a fee, Jarashow also points out that
But Pieper's page is a piker compared to another Web site that encourages
United
Airlines customers to let fly with their air rage. Www.untied.com
offers an
encyclopedic catalogue of passenger hell, including more than
2,000 letters that
detail everything from lost luggage on a honeymoon trip to
disputes over
frequent-flyer miles. There's even an extensive exchange of
letters between a
former United pilot who criticizes the airline's safety record
and several current
pilots who insist United is safe. The sassy menu page mimics
United's colors and
logo and calls the much-ballyhooed Star Alliance between United
and several
international carriers the "Satan Alliance." Dissatisfaction with
the airline is so
high, says Jeremy Cooperstock, founder of untied.com, that he's
been able to
solicit contributions from fellow complainers to help fund the
site.
As angry as United's customers are, though, who logs onto this
site more often
than anyone else? According to Cooperstock, it's United itself.
Frequent Flyer Magazine
Rant and Rave Sites: Little Relief, But You'll Feel Better
In June 1996, when Frequent Flyer went to press with its first
"How to Complain Effectively" issue, student Jeremy
Cooperstock fired off a letter to then United Airlines CEO Gerald
Greenwald complaining of "unpleasant incidents" on his trip to
Japan and Hawaii.
He got no reply, so he sent a followup to Greenwald and
United's customer relations director. In late August, Cooperstock
got a form letter from United that, he said, ignored his original
gripe.
Angered, he launched the "Poor Show" Web pages at the
University of Toronto and invited other United passengers to
carp away. Over the next seven months, some 30 e-mails were
posted. The online airline complaint was born.
UNITED AIRLINES
Look at the Scoreboard.
As of April 27, 2000, United still does not offer a toll-free number for
complaints. Regarding customers' complaints, Ms. Harvill says, "We take
their issues seriously." Of course you do.
CBC Marketplace
Web Watchers
Summary:
In the last few years, we've watched
as consumers have taken their
complaints online. But now, the
companies they're criticising are
striking back. They're carefully
watching the Internet and calling
their lawyers.
Full story:
This is how it used to be: if you had
a complaint about a company or it's
product you had little option other
than public protest.
Today you take it on-line -- to an
Internet chat group or a web site you put together late
last night.
And you're not alone. Thousands of dissatisfied
consumers are telling their stories in cyberspace for
anyone to read. They complain about how companies
treat them, about the products they sell.
Today's protesters demonstrate on consumer opinion
sites. Some sites are sophisticated. Some
straightforward. Some witty. Others are crude and
juvenile.
One guy has a problem with the Chase Manhattan Bank.
Another is irked by Bell Canada.
Consumers visiting this site have a problem with Dunkin
Donuts.
Not surprisingly, companies aren't happy with this on-line
activism. Some are trying to stamp out the chat.
Jeremy Cooperstock is a professor at McGill University.
He hosts a web site about United Airlines. It all started
with a couple of bad flights.
So Cooperstock did what most of us would have done --
he wrote a letter.
"And the letter was ignored. I didn't get a reply back."
So he wrote another letter. "I waited another month and I
think at that point I got a form letter reply which
completely ignored everything I had written."
"And I suspect that at that point United started to pay a
little attention," Cooperstock says.
So Cooperstock tried a new approach: "I removed any
reference to the word United Airlines, I removed their
logo ... 'United' was rearranged and became 'Untied,'
therefore there was no more infringement."
Untied.com includes criticism and compliments. And
since Cooperstock complied with lawyers' requests,
United hasn't come knocking again.
Facing legal implications, Cooperstock could have
collapsed the web page. But he didn't.
"I didn't see what United stood to gain by taking me, an
individual, to court and suing me," he says. "My pockets
are rather shallow compared to theirs.
"I think underlying that was that they didn't like the free
speech."
McGill Reporter
What began as a simple letter of complaint three years ago has mushroomed into a popular web site that goes by the name Untied -- as in United Airlines coming apart.
Electrical and computer engineering professor Jeremy Cooperstock, then a graduate student at the University of Toronto, was incensed when his "polite" letter of complaint regarding damage to his luggage and a nearly missed connecting flight due to failed communication on United's part, went ignored by the American air giant.
So he pursued the matter. First with a follow-up letter, then a web site.
Cooperstock wasn't alone among passengers -- or United employees, as it turned out -- in getting no satisfaction. To date, the web site has received hundreds of stories of bad treatment at United's hands -- 483 in the past three months alone.
Few of those complaints have been dealt with by United. In fact, only three over the past three months received responses. But the bad publicity isn't appreciated by the company. (United threatened to sue the U of T when Cooperstock's web site was on its system, so he changed servers.) What's more, www.untied.com -- described on the ABC News website as "an old online veteran" -- may have spawned other air travel complaint sites with equally evocative names. Take NorthworstAir.org or AirlinesSuck.com, for example.
Cooperstock did finally, after 14 months, get an apology for the bad service he received, but by then it was too late to close shop. Too many other people had contributed to the web site and hadn't had their complaints dealt with.
For a vast and frequently entertaining array of travel complaints, or relief in knowing you are not alone in your bad air travel experience, fasten your seat belts and direct your cursor to: www.untied.com.
Wall Street Journal Interactive Edition
Travel Executives Stop Lurking,
Intro clipped for brevity.
There are also are sites developed by irate travelers to encourage
others to air their concerns about specific airlines. Untied.com, a
sounding board for United passengers with complaints, recently
redesigned its site to mirror United's recently revamped home page,
while a slogan on NorthWorstAir.org describes the site as being "a
forum for Northwest Air customers to trade horror stories about NWA's
service with an 'attitude.' "
Although these negative forums provide an opportunity for travelers to
vent their frustrations, "flaming" an airline with negative comments
seldom results in the rectification of a problem.
"Their credibility is weak," is how United's Mileage Plus marketing
manager, Jim Davidovich, describes the consumers who voice complaints
on Untied.com.
UAL's continued derision of its customers, who have grown weary of having
their complaints ignored, is sad indeed. What is amusing, however, is Mr.
Davidovich's ignorance of the fact that United's headquarters
give enough credibility to the complaints posted here that they
check them out an average of twice a day!
Chicago Tribune
THE GREAT SEARCH:
Intro clipped
Untied (sic) Airlines -- The Most Unfriendly Skies
(www.untied.com): As is obvious from the title, the
creator of this site, computer scientist Jerome [sic] R.
Cooperstock, has had problems with United Airlines.
He publicizes his and others' gripes about denied
boarding and a host of other problems.
ABCNews.com
Airlines Ignore Web Whines
It is the season of discontent for air travelers. Fares are soaring
this summer, planes are flying at capacity and airport terminals are
crowded, hot and uncomfortable.
Passengers are furious. They're calling their representatives and
demanding new laws to keep them from being treated like cattle. They're
writing the Department of Transportation with their complaints.
They're even e-mailing me to vent about their last flight. In
response, Web sites are appearing to field travelers' gripes. Old
online veterans such as Untied.com, the ever-popular United
Airlines-bashing site, are being joined by a host of newcomers ranging
from the slick PassengerRights.com to the homegrown NorthworstAir.org.
Section clipped for brevity.
A look at the best-established of the consumer airline sites,
Untied.com, suggests that he's right. Of 483 e-mailed complaints logged
during a recent three-month period, United Airlines answered only
three. Jeremy Cooperstock, an electrical and computer engineering
professor at McGill University who started the site after an unpleasant
flight on the Chicago airline, admits, "United isn't very good about
responding."
First Class
Pressure Websites: Caught in the Net
All of which leaves you incensed but with no way to vent your
frustration. Until now, that is. Today, the truly incensed traveller
has a way to complain to the whole world. Welcome to the beginnings of
a new era of passenger power being made possible by the internet - the
global network which can make any of us into personal publishers. With
just a PC and a web site any disgruntled passenger can now take on the
biggest airlines.
But does anybody really bother? The answer it seems is a definite yes.
Take the case of frequent flyer Jeremy Cooperstock. Back in 1996 he
wrote a polite letter to the president of United Airlines, copying it
to the director of customer relations, with one of those lengthy
traveller's tales of delays, alleged misinformation from the airline's
staff and other problems that gave him what he thought was a thoroughly
unpleasant trip. After six weeks he sent a follow up letter and finally
received what he considered was a standard reply from United that
didn't answer his problems or apologise. And he wasn't happy with the
two $100 vouchers sent as compensation.
For most people that would have been the end of it. Not so for Mr
Cooperstock who was so incensed at the lack of an apology and what he
saw as the blatant disregarding of a serious and polite complaint that
he set up a web site detailing his argument with United which soon
began to attract more tales from other passengers unhappy with the
airline. The result is that, two years on, there is now a huge web
site, described as "the place that allows frustrated former United
Airlines passengers a chance to speak out". It not only includes
several hundred passenger complaints but allows you to select by type
of grievance - from rudeness and misinformation to incompetence and
refund problems. Called Untied Airlines, it is at www.untied.com and
organised so professionally that it puts many commercial web sites to
shame.
There is even a complaints form for irate passengers to fill out which
automatically puts the complaint on the web site and copies it to
United's director of customer relations and president. That is not all.
There is a round up of employee lawsuits against the airline and links
to any stories in the general media that show United in a less than
favourable light. Mr Cooperstock clearly does not do things by halves.
So what are passengers complaining about? These are some of the
examples of bad service from passengers quoted on the web site:
Can't find your seat? Get off the plane. Ask for service? You must be
drunk and disorderly. Leave behind your 10-year old. Be quiet, the
crew are trying to rest. Lied to, and threatened with arrest No
apology from abusive purser $377 doesn't get you into the restroom Lies
about seat assignments Paid for first class? Sorry, you fly coach.
Booked in advance? Too bad!
Thankfully for other airlines Untied is in a league of it's own in both
scope and depth. But perhaps only for the moment. When Northwest
Airlines brushed off Ronald Riley's complaints about a damaged laptop
computer, he started a web-site called Northworst Air
(www.northworst.org). It has only been going since January this year
but Riley claims more than 6,500 people visited it in the first three
months including employees from 12 airlines and of course Northwest
Airlines itself. There are others. The Tower Air Parody Site,
(www.idemandloyalty.com) for example, conducts a similar though more
modest assault on Tower Air. And there are personal sites, for example
a web page from someone called Niki asking people who have pets not to
fly Turkish Airlines as, she claims, they lost one of her three cats.
But while Untied is unique in terms of anti-airline web sites, it is
certainly not alone when it comes to business generally. In the USA,
anti-corporate web-sites are highly advanced. From Amway to Wal Mart,
Bell Atlantic to Toshiba, the Yahoo search engine now lists more than
100 companies enjoying the dubious privilege of a web site run by
someone who hates them.
Some are run by disgruntled ex-employees, others by the type of people
lawyers would no doubt refer to as vexatious litigants if they ever
took their grievances to court. Still others are run by serious
activist organisations who object to a company's activities in certain
areas from dealing with the environment to selling fur products or
refusing union recognition.
In that sense airlines are still getting off lightly. And do they
really need to worry? Who, after all, is going to look at these sites?
Those going straight to an airline site will not see them. But search
for an airline using one of the many internet search engines and you
may well find, if not a site dedicated to complaining about it, a whole
host of grievances coming up on other travel-related web sites.
Though they are reluctant to talk airlines like United and Northwest
are clearly taking notice. Cooperstock claims 145,000 people visited
his Untied site in 1998 and that United Airlines itself has been to his
main page more than 1500 times. If true then there is a whole new area
for customer service departments to worry about. But the first thought
by most companies when faced with a customer pressure site against them
is that they should try to close it down.
Companies won't talk about it but those who run the sites say that such
actions are nearly always to claim trade mark and copyright
infringement. In the early days this was easier for companies to get
away with, as pressure sites would often use company logos or trade
marks but nowadays if a customer complaint site is careful about
copyright and is careful not to include malicious libel, there is
little a company can do. Such sites may or may not be unfair but they
are unlikely to be illegal.
Sometimes companies do not help themselves. In the UK, British Telecom
was so anxious to be known as BT that it never even bothered to
register the web address www.british-telecom.co.uk. But an irate
customer did and for several months anyone entering what would be a
logical guess for the BT web-site, instead arrived at a site full of
complaints about the telecom giant. Eventually BT did manage to get
the site stopped because of the use of its (old) name in the web
address. Others are now far wiser and Chase Manhattan Bank has
reportedly registered a whole group of site names such as
ihatechase.com and chasestinks.com just to make absolutely sure that no
disgruntled customer or employee will ever be able to get hold of
them.
Unless there is blatant libel or proof of an orchestrated campaign to
denigrate an airline with fictitious complaints - and there is no
evidence for either so far - airlines will just have to learn to live
with this new level of passenger power and perhaps even use it to their
own advantage. "If an airline values its image then should use these
web sites as a tool to perform better," says IATA spokesman, Tim
Goodyear. "They could even serve a useful function in crystallising
particular complaints. If a lot of different people are so incensed
about the same thing that they are taking the time to enter a web site
and register their anger then it is worth doing something about. it."
That would seem to the most sensible approach once airlines realise
that, however much they would like to, they will not be able to shut
down what will soon be even more customer complaint sites that are
bound to spring up against them.
Dallas Morning News
Online Options: Web pages can sting corporations
Intro of article clipped.
"We try and keep an eye on it, but we do have other priorities,"
said Joe Hopkins, a spokesman for Chicago-based United Airlines,
referring to a site critical of United at www.untied.com. "We prefer
that consumers approach us directly, and that is what most people do."
Clipped...
The gripes are similar to postings that are found in topic-specific
Internet discussion groups. But the Web sites offer far more utility,
allowing operators the ability to use colorful graphics, a database of
previous complaints and critical news articles.
For instance, the rogue site about United - "Untied Airlines, the most
unfriendly skies" - lists complaints in categories called rudeness,
misinformation, incompetence, special needs, refund problems and
premier class.
Jeremy Cooperstock, 31, a Toronto university professor, started the
site after he had an unpleasant trip on United.
The affiliation is incorrect. Cooperstock is not in Toronto.
"A lot of people accused me of doing this in revenge or anger," said
Mr. Cooperstock. "But just because big organizations are big and
wealthy, they are not entitled to ignore the public."
And some consumers said they've gotten results from the sites.
Rest of article clipped.
Conventional wisdom dictates that it's better for companies to do right
by their unhappy customers than have them tell friends how displeased they
are. Well, United Airlines didn't respond to Jeremy Cooperstock's complaints,
and now the airline probably wishes it had.
Three years ago, Cooperstock, a 31-year-old professor of electrical
and computer engineering at Montreal's McGill University, created
Untied Airlines, a website to air
his displeasure with the airline and offer an online forum for other
frustrated flyers. Cooperstock,, who had written to United about poor
service and missed connections on trips to Hawaii and Japan, finally
received a pair of $100 vouchers. But by then the site had gained
momentum. Tens of thousands of people have visited the site, with hundreds
posting complaints. Many have said they thought their problems were
isolated incidents until they came across the site and found so many
similar complaints.
When visitors arrive at the site, they're greeting with a flashing
question: "What do we think of United's skies?" The question disappears
and is replaced with the word "friendly" behind a red circle with a slash
through it. Complaints are organized into categories, ranging from "rudeness"
to "incompetence." And it's not just those flying the in the cattle-car
conditions in coach who complain. Premier flyers, travel agents and even United
employees (who have accessed the site 1,464 times, according to Cooperstock)
have visited the site.
Andy Plews, UAL's general manager of media relations, is aware of the site
but says "it's not something we generally get into a big discussion on."
He says the company is happy to address grievances through its web site or by phone (847.700.6796). Plews notes
that United is "one of many companies that have sites about them." Ture
enough, though not many companies can claim to be the target of so many
vitriolic postings.
Among the letters: A flyer wrote about a United crew's lack of preparation
after a man suffered a heart attack while the plane was on the ground.
According to the letter, it took 30 minutes to evacuate the stricken man,
who later died. "A flight attendant did nothing but shake the man and yell
'Are you alright?' I was told later by someone that a United FA (flight
attendant) said they were 'discouraged' from getting involved in medical
emergencies. Well, I now live in Chicago, and am 'discouraged' from flying
United."
United unveiled a new ad campaign a couple of years ago, that claims the
airline is "rising" to new heights of customer service. But judging by
the continued torrent of letters, Cooperstock doesn't see any noticeable
improvement. He says he's not public service. A disclaimer at
the bottom of the page reads: "Untied Airlines is proud to have no relation
to United Airlines, which is not responsible for the contents of this
web site, apart from providing the poor service that led to all
of these complaints."
Of those who write Cooperstock, about 80 percent support his efforts, 10
percent are critical and another 10 percent mistake his site for the official
United site and try to check flight schedules or update frequent flier accounts.
For the airlines, the Net has been a godsend, giving them a way to sell
tickets directly without paying commissions to travel agents. But
it could be a doubt outraged consumers the opportunity to tell more friends
about shoddy service than the airlines ever imagined possible.
USA Today
Carrying on complaints into cyberspace
While Congress and the Clinton administration wrangle over proposals
aimed at boosting passenger rights, computer-savvy fliers are using
cyberspace to byte back against bad trips. Once limited largely to
Internet mailing lists and Usenet newsgroups (bulletin boards) such as
rec.travel.air and alt.air line.class.action.lawsuit, passengers'
on-line complaints are landing on a growing variety of Web sites, from
"rogue" home pages devoted to dissing a particular carrier to sites
emphasizing news and consumer advice. A sampling:
Clipped...
Untied Airlines (www.untied.com)
Launched two years ago as "a Web site that offers frustrated former
United Airlines passengers a chance to speak out," this
state-of-the-art soapbox posts an average of 100 complaints a month
about everything from refund snafus to mistreatment of unaccompanied
minors.
Funded by reader contributions, Untied's tide of woe includes
a few success stories from mollified passengers. What's more, insists
creator Jeremy Cooperstock, "we're all looking forward to that day when
this Web site is no longer necessary" -- a day he reckons won't be any
time soon.
Rest of article clipped.
The Globe & Mail
Futuretech: Eavesdroppers
As millions flock on-line, the Net is becoming the biggest cocktail
conversation in the world. Now some of the world's largest companies
are starting to listen in.
Section clipped for brevity.
Ignoring consumer complaints, before the Internet, usually meant having
one irate customer who might bad-mouth your product to their friends or
write a letter to the local newspaper. With the Web, the process has
morphed into a construct with the ability to terrify even the most
powerful corporation: the "rogue site." "These things can just come out
of nowhere and totally blindside you," marvels John Weinseis, president
of Bowdens Media Monitoring Ltd. in Toronto, which resells eWatch
services in the Canadian market.
A rogue site is a Web site devoted to attacking an individual company.
Over the past few years, this colourful field has included the "I Hate
McDonald's" page, the "ToysRUs Sucks" page and "The Official Packard
Bell Hate Page." The popular Yahoo search site has indexed a staggering
147 such sites (classified diplomatically as "consumer opinion").
Sometimes the sites serve an activist purpose; sometimes they offer
info for other consumers; sometimes they exist just because, well, it's
extremely fun to torture a smug, self-satisfied company over its lousy
service.
For Jeremy Cooperstock, it was probably a combination of all three.
Cooperstock was a 31-year-old student at the University of Toronto in
June, 1996, when he had a "flight from hell" on United Airlines. During
a trip to Tokyo, he and a friend were uninformed of a change in the
flight itinerary that nearly made them late for a conference; later, he
had his seats mixed up, and a piece of clothing damaged. He complained
by letter, but got only a form reply. So he decided to post the story
on his personal Web page at the university. "I felt very disappointed,"
he says. "I figured if the company isn't even going to dignify me with
a personal response, I ought to let the world know how they treated
their customers."
To his surprise, dozens of other passengers disgruntled with United
began mailing him their horror stories. He started posting them, and it
snowballed. Before long, he had amassed an archive of stories, several
hours worth of gruesome reading about United's allegedly bungled
flights, rude staff behaviour and mistreatment of people with
disabilities. One story is from a woman who, while flying home after
lung surgery, says she was forced by United attendants to carry her own
luggage; another passenger, debilitated by polio, says she was insulted
by a flight attendant after requesting help in storing her bag.
Cooperstock began putting in up to two hours a week of his free time
organizing the site. "Some people say I've put more in there than
anyone could ever read," he jokes. He discovered, to his delight, that
when anyone did a search for "United Airlines" on the popular Altavista
search engine, his site made the top of the list beating out even
United's own corporate Web site. In 1997, Cooperstock even registered a
domain name for it: www.untied.com.
In 1998, he clocked 145,000 discrete visitors a small number, but
enough to annoy United mightily. "We're aware of the site," says Joe
Hopkins, United's manager of media relations. He says it hasn't
affected the company financially: United flew 87 million customers in
1998, an increase of three million over the previous year. "Our
business continues to grow, and we expect it to do so in the future,"
he adds testily. Still, the site was clearly enough of a pain that,
according to Cooperstock, United has tried unsuccessfully to shut down
the site for copyright infringement. (Hopkins declined comment on this
subject.)
Cooperstock argues that the rogue sites are a symptom of how the Net
has given some small bit of power back to consumers. "This was fringe
when I started it, but it's becoming a part of mainstream Internet
culture now," he adds. "People rely on it for information about who to
fly with." Indeed, when the site was temporarily off-line after
Cooperstock left U of T, a fan of the site mailed him $200, in the hope
of helping to get it back up.
Rest of article clipped.
PC Computing
Liar, Liar
Linda Tripp has nothing on most Americans for dishing dirt when they're
pissed. But who'd have thought low-life tattling would become the
Internet's biggest growth industry? Cybergossip, whoppers, and slurs
now move billions of bucks. Did you hear the one about the United
Airlines passenger who died from a heart attack because the crew took
more than 30 minutes to acknowledge he was unconscious? United Airlines
sure hopes you didn't. But there it is on www.untied.com, a site
dedicated to exposing customer-service horror stories about the
airline. It's not the only Web site spewing vinegar. Consider a
smattering of pages Yahoo pitches up when you search under consumer
opinion: My Anti-Netscape Page, The Why Apple Macintosh Computers Are
Worthless Homepage, Macy's Is an (Alleged) Criminal Organization,
WalMartSucks.com, and Packard Bell Is Evil.
Rest of article clipped.
Mining Co. Guide to Air Travel
The Customer Bytes Back:
You have to love the internet free speech is everywhere and it seems
everyone has a website these days. One area that is growing are
complaint sites by angry customers or employees. Yahoo has an entire
directory dedicated to sites that take shots at various companies,
sites that call for boycotts, sites that complain about customer
service blunders, sites that publicize product defects, etc.
Corporations have cringed at the very thought of their brand being
subject to internet banter. Some firms like Chase Manhattan Bank have
taken extreme measures to keep the corporate name from internet
ridicule. Chase has gone the extra step to protect their brand by
purchasing several .com addresses, also known as anti-domains, they
include ihatechase.com and chasestinks.com among others. While some
complaint sites can occasionally be helpful by exposing trends in
customer dissatisfaction most are gripe sites with no real value other
than gaining a few laughs at corporate expense. Airlines are not
immune to this growing trend.
The Unfriendly Skies
Take the story of Jeremy Cooperstock. Cooperstock, a professor of
electrical and computer engineering at McGill University in Montreal,
just wanted to fly from Toronto to Toyko with no hassles. However, it
ended up a nightmare of missed flights, rude gate agents, and having
articles damaged by flight attendants. After a series of letters to
United Airlines with no real tangible solutions Mr. Cooperstock took
his case to the web and created Untied.com "a Web site that offers
frustrated former United Airlines passengers a chance to speak out."
What happened was amazing hundreds of letters poured in from readers
chronicling their own misfortunes with United. Jeremy created new
sections on the website dedicated to customer complaints regarding
everything from rude flight attendants to messy frequent flier
accounts. He states, " the need for this web site is further
demonstrated when we receive letters from other travelers who went
through very similar experiences. These episodes could be easily
prevented if only United would pay some attention to what its
passengers have been saying!" Apparently United Airlines is paying
attention. Through website logs Jeremy is able to track visitor's
domain addresses and according to him during the 19 months the site has
been on-line, United Airlines' headquarters has accessed the main page
1501 times. His site has been getting a lot of attention. In addition
to being profiled in the book Unleashing the Killer App he's also been
mentioned in Newsweek, The Los Angeles Times, Aviation Today, Seattle
Times, The Chicago Tribune, PC World Magazine among others.
Cooperstock goes on to state "we're all looking forward to that day
when this web site is no longer necessary."
Rest of article clipped.
Wall Street Journal Interactive Edition
Archivist of Airline Gripes Seeks
Untied.com is dedicated to exposing the underbelly of United Airlines.
Visitors can peruse old letters under such categories as "Rudeness at
United" and "Incompetence at United."
Jeremy Cooperstock thinks travelers may be willing to pay to air their
complaints against United Airlines in cyberspace. As founder of
Untied.com, a Web site dedicated to exposing the underbelly of the
friendly skies, Mr. Cooperstock has maintained the site without
advertising or financial support since it went "live" in June of 1997.
He has been deluged with passengers' airline horror stories that he has
posted on the site, and he also has taken pains to air United's
official responses to the complaints when applicable.
Visitors to the site can peruse old letters under such categories as
"Rudeness at United" and "Incompetence at United," and there is an
entire section of Untied.com devoted to the problems experienced by
passengers with special needs. "I started this site because of my own
experience," says Mr. Cooperstock, a computer engineering professor at
McGill University in Montreal who "went electronic" in response to the
airline's refusal to address a complaint to his satisfaction. "But, as
it turns out, my experience was trivial compared to other horror
stories. Having a ripped garment bag was not such a big deal."
Mr. Cooperstock has been unable to keep up with the volume of
submissions he receives, and he has started an on-site contribution
drive, hoping people will be willing to help support the site. Ideally,
he says, he would like to hire someone to serve as an intermediary
between UAL Corp.'s United Airlines and the Untied.com community.
In the online literature, Mr. Cooperstock estimates the site costs
about $340 a year to maintain and states that his request for "a token
contribution of five dollars" is not an attempt to turn Untied into a
money-making operation.
During the first month of the appeal, 25 people have printed out Mr.
Cooperstock's plea for assistance, and loyal fans have sent more than
$150 in contributions. One reader even offered to underwrite the cost
of the site for an entire year, but Mr. Cooperstock declined. "I'd
rather have a wide readership and base of support," he says.
After the initial burst of generosity from passengers fit to be Untied,
Mr. Cooperstock is optimistic about the site's future. And the more
money he gets, the more likely it is that the site will continue to
remain a virtual thorn in United's side.
ABC News with Peter Jennings
The Frustrations of Flight
National Public Radio -- Morning Edition
[Transcript follows:]
But more and more people are complaining. The Department of
Transportation says overall complaints were up 20 percent last year.
And web sites collecting travel woes abound. Untied.com, a site
devoted to exposing the misdeeds of United Airlines has received
thousands of complaints from passengers in the year it has been
operating, according to its creator, Jeremy Cooperstock:
"Recently, the one that I put up as (sort of) the 'letter of the week'
deals with a 10-year old boy who was asked to get off the plane to make
a seat for a priority passenger and when his mother complained, she was
asked to go and speak to a manager, so she got off the plane, the doors
were closed on her and the flight took off without her."
A United spokesoman dismisses the web site as "vengeful" containing
stories that may or may not be true. And he says the reason customer
complaints are up is because air travel is up and because as a society,
we're just complaining more about everything these days.
Los Angeles Times
Effective Mouse Fights With Big Corporations
When Jacob Reider's written protests about a botched family reunion
at Cancun's Moon Palace hotel fell on deaf corporate ears, the Albany,
N.Y., physician fought back with a mouse. He aired his gripes on the
Internet.
Rest of intro clipped.
"Cruisers give a lot of weight to the fact that someone has just
gotten off the ship they're considering," says Cruise Critic's moderator,
Anne Campbell, "and (negative reports) can have a lot of impact." One of
the most visible efforts to chastise a travel company in cyberspace is
http://www.untied.com, billed by creator Jeremy Cooperstock as "a Web
site that offers frustrated former United Airlines passengers a chance to
speak out."
Thousands have done just that since the engineer launched the site
last year, complaining about everything from rude flight attendants to
snafus with frequent-flier accounts. In a section titled "Yes, United
Airlines does pay attention," Cooperstock claims that United headquarters
has accessed the site more than 900 times since its inception. And while
most of United's comments are negative, Cooperstock lists a handful of
success stories that he says prove "a polite, well-phrased letter to
United can often achieve effective results."
Remainder of article clipped.
World Airline News
Unconventional Market Research: Using Rogue Sites to Improve Airlines
For airlines, the Internet
has become indispensable as a marketing tool and money-saver: carriers
can communicate directly with their customers without spending a cent
on postage, can sell tickets without the usual distribution costs and
can market services without the cost of advertising.
However, as use of the Internet has gained momentum, airlines have
entered a new era of public relations and customer service.
Dissatisfied passengers now can freely air their gripes about shoddy
service to more than just their neighbors they can tell the entire
world about their impressions of a carrier on what have come to be
called "rogue" sites.
Thats what Dr. Nick Fiddes did
last year when he had a bad experience on Air Canada and,
according to Fiddes, failed to receive any apology or acknowledgment of
his written complaint. Jeremy Cooperstock did the same thing in June
1996 when, he said, United Airlines [UAL] sent a form letter
that did not address his specific complaint two months after his
initial written complaint. Cooperstock, a professor of electrical and
computer engineering at McGill University in Montreal, said he
identified several problems he experienced on a series of United
flights to Japan and Hawaii, none of which United acknowledged in its
response.
Both Cooperstock and Fiddes are now webmasters of
sites critical of these airlines, providing an outlet for other
passengers to air their own complaints. Fiddes said that over 2,000
people recently have been accessing his site and generating more than
50 messages daily. Of those, over 90 percent are supportive of his
efforts. Cooperstock said he has logged about 1,000 letters since his
current site went online at the end of April. About 80 percent of those
are supportive, 10 percent are critical and 10 percent are people
mistaking his site for Uniteds official site, inquiring as to how they
can update frequent flyer miles or get flight schedules.
A Market Research Tool
Airlines should neither ignore
nor rush to condemn the people who set up these sites, say public
relations consultants. "Its a classic glass half empty/glass half
full, " said Michael Teeling, a public relations professional at
The Horn Group in San Francisco. "I always encourage
clients to take the high road and look at these rogue web sites as
market research. They allow you to tap instantaneously into your
customer base; its a barometer of public opinion about your
product."
United has taken that exact approach and is using
the site to compile customer feedback and improve its product. Within
the past three or four months, Cooperstock said that United has
accessed his site about three or four times a day. "The top people
[at United] are trying to deal with the problems on the site," he
acknowledged. "Several individuals have had their problems solved
as a result of the site."
Air Canada, on the other hand,
has taken a different approach, choosing not to confront Fiddes
directly. "If theres slander, we will act accordingly," said
an Air Canada spokeswoman, "but people are allowed to express
their views. I dont know how much credence people give to these
domains."
Other rogue sites established in the past include
one critical of American Airlines [AMR], set up by a frequent
flyer who was consistently unable to redeem his mileage due to full
flights and blackout dates, and a site calling for the boycott of
Alaska Airlines [ALK] which criticized its pricing monopolies in
Alaska, Cooperstock said. Other sites are likely to pop up in the
future.
The bottom line? "You cant please everyone, but you
can't ignore the web and its power to drive customers," Teeling
concluded.
The Record Online
Word of mouth a shout as complaints go on line
Beginning of article clipped.
"There are no editors in cyberspace to make sure that what gets
posted is accurate," said James Alexander, director of eWatch in
White Plains, N.Y., which checks the Web for mention of companies,
products, or competitors for an annual $9,500 fee. "If
someone is talking about your company, it is vital to be watching."
Among his 500 clients are US West Airlines, Mrs. Field's Cookies,
Northwest Airlines, and Heinz, Alexander said.
But numerous other companies, recognizing
the potential for a public-relations disaster, do their
monitoring in-house. Often, they will take action.
When one disgruntled former United Airlines customer erected the
United gripe page, the airline took notice and wrote a letter to its
creator.
"Our customer relations department looks
at sites like that, and if there's a problem we can fix, we try to
track down the person who put it up," said Tony Molinaro, a
United spokesman.
So let's look at the history.
On September 6, 1996, United was informed
of my initial web site. On January 8, 1997, a United representative finally
contacted me to say that a letter was on its way. Did that fix
the problem? Unfortunately, no. Instead of simply saying, "we're sorry,"
which is all
we had asked for back in June 1996, the letter (written by someone
who no longer worked for the airline) threatened legal action against me.
Let's hope that United is better at fixing more serious problems.
The company will not use the site as a
go-between but will contact the person directly by letter or phone.
In this case, the site's creator, Jeremy Cooperstock, put the
letter up on the site.
Sorry to disappoint Mr. Molinaro, but several noteworthy UAL
employees have used the Untied.com site as a go-between to help
resolve passenger problems. An interesting point: many of the
letters my site receives are from former United passengers who have
already complained to United but were not given the decency of a
reply.
"I'm not sure why someone would go
to all that effort and time to do that sort of thing,"
Molinaro said about the Web site. "If they had an
issue where we disserviced them, we are willing to talk to them
about it."
Mr. Molinaro should talk to Mr. Kiker,
United's vice president for Corporate Communications. The latter
would explain that I went to "all that effort" because his airline's
response to my complaints was "slow, impersonal and insufficiently
candid." At any rate, since Mr. Molinaro appears willing to talk to
customers who were disserviced by United, I look forward to receiving
his reply to my request to post his
telephone number so that other passengers can contact him directly.
Stay tuned.
Newsweek
Foiling the Rogues
'Anti' Web sites are great for angry customers, but now companies
are trying to fight back
Did you hear the story about the man who had a hear attack on an
airplane and died because it took the flight crew 30 minutes
to get help? United Airlines hopes you haven't. But the thousands
of Web travelers who have visited www.untied.com, an online
site dedicated to exposing customer-service horror stories,
probably have seen it. Not to mention dozens of other nasty
comments posted there, too. Tony Molinaro, a spokesman who says
United is looking into the incident, says of the site,
"I had no idea it was out there."
[remainder of article discusses other companies]
United, for its part, is monitoring its rogue site. In the
meantime, it's doing what it always does to placate dissatisfied
customers: offering the creator of the rogue Web site free
travel vouchers. Sometimes old-fashion works best.
Tony Molinaro's remark regarding the Untied site ("I had no idea it was
out there") seems to suggest dishonesty on his part, since he had
previously commented on the site in the previous month's Chicago Tribune.
However, in fairness to him, I followed up with Ms. Tanaka of Newsweek,
who explained that Molinaro's remark was taken out of context.
Molinaro had initially reported that he first learned of the site
through a radio news story.
As for the travel vouchers, once again, $100 off a $1500 fare is not
free travel.
Seattle Times
Business News
A new Web page - http://www.untied.com - proudly
proclaims: "Untied Airlines is proud to have no relation to United
Airlines, which is not responsible for the contents of this Web site,
apart from providing the poor service that led to all these
complaints."
The site is a collection of dozens of complaints about what it calls
rudeness, misinformation, incompetence, special-needs mistreatment and
refund problems. United Airlines tries to monitor the site and answer
questions.
Keep an eye on this Internet trend.
Chicago Tribune
United Airlines fit to be Untied by unfriendly web site
United Airlines' Internet nightmare is located at www.untied.com, a
Web site that United tried to persuade its creator to shut down
because of alleged trademark infringements. The site collects and
prints, in detail, complaints about service on the world's biggest
airline.
It's a Web page that proudly states: "Untied Airlines is proud to
have no relation to United Airlines, which is not responsible for
the contents of this Web site, apart from providing the poor service
that led to all these complaints."
Open for a little more than four months, the site was created by
Jeremy Cooperstock, an engineer who works for Sony Corp. It has
collected dozens of complaints about what it calls rudeness,
misinformation, incompetence, special-needs mistreatment and refund
problems. It even contains complaints by United's best customers, it's
Premier Class fliers.
Cooperstock says Epicurious Travel, which rates the nation's
airlines on late flights, mishandled baggage, bumped passengers and
consumer complaints, lists United near the bottom of its list of
domestic airlines. The only airlines rated lower were Trans World
Airlines and America West Airlines.
Untied.com is one of many such pages cropping up on the Web in
response to what their creators believe is Corporate America's
failure to deal with their complaints.
"Our customer relations department monitors the site and tries to
fix bad information and answer questions when they can," said Tony
Molinaro, a United spokesman. He said repeated efforts to contact
Cooperstock have failed.
That news comes as quite a surprise, considering the hundreds of
former United passengers who had absolutely no trouble contacting me.
PC World Magazine -- Consumer Watch
Don't Get Mad, Get Online
Consumers' ability to air grievances on the Net has forced companies to
respond to client complaints.
Jeremy Cooperstock didn't expect much when he wrote a letter to United
Airlines last spring about a problem-ridden intercontinental flight.
All he wanted was a formal response to the litany of problems he
encountered on a flight from Toronto to Tokyo.
But after two months (and a follow-up letter), the only reply
Cooperstock had received was a form-letter apology, along with two $100
vouchers toward a future United flight. Although the coupons would come
in handy later, what he really wanted was an explanation for the
troubles he'd detailed in his two-page missive, including, missed
connections due to flight delays (announced, oddly enough, only in
Chinese); bungled seat assignments, despite having made reservations
months in advance; and a wool suit that was ruined when a flight
attendant placed a stroller on top of a garment bag in the cabin
storage area. Frustrated by United's lack of concern, Cooperstock did
what any computer-savvy consumer activist would do: He created a Web
page and shared his gripes with the world.
Cooperstock's first "anti-United" site went live in August of 1996. He
dubbed it "Poor Show," and promptly informed United of its existence
because he wanted the airline to know the consequences of poor customer
service. "It wasn't the poor treatment we received from United, but
rather the subsequent disregard for a serious, polite complaint that
led to the creation of the Web pages," explains Cooperstock.
In one three-month period, the site has had 1500 hits, mostly from
other United customers
(since the initial media attention to the Untied site, shortly
after this story was written, the figure has
jumped to over 14,000 hits).
It's also attracted the attention of United
employees. According to access logs, says Cooperstock, 227 of those
1500 hits to the site were from the United URL. He adds that he has
exchanged e-mail with several United employees about issues raised on
his site.
Though it's tough to estimate the site's real effect, United has since
begun a new ad campaign emphasizing the airline's efforts to better its
customer service. "One thing is for certain," says Cooperstock,
"letters that were once ignored by United's customer relations
officials are read more carefully after they are posted to my site."
Some are even acted on by industrious employees: In one case, a United
customer service representative happened to read about a customer's
problems on Cooperstock's pages and helped to resolve them.
As for the corporate muckety-mucks, executives at United's headquarters
also acknowledged the site's existence after a few months: They
threatened to sue for trademark infringement. While the name "Poor
Show" could have referred to any company, Cooperstock's use of United's
"Friendly Skies" banner with a big red X spray-painted through it and
the words "Yeah, right!" below it made him vulnerable to legal action.
He's since changed the name of the site to Untied Airlines
(www.untied.com) and eliminated all the United logos and slogans. The
opening screen now sports an airplane bearing the name, "Untied
Airlines," and a new slogan: "The most Unfriendly Skies."
Remainder of article clipped.
San Francisco Business Times
Talk of the Town
In the interests of accuracy, I am including this news article here with
a minor correction, shown in blue.
Its skies may remain friendly, but cyberspace has turned hostile for
United Airlines. The Bay Area's biggest air carrier has
recently picked up an unwelcome traveling companion: "Untied Airlines,
the Most Unfriendly Skies," a snippy web site aimed at dissing the
airline. Com-piled by Canadian engineer Jeremy Cooperstock at Sony
Corp., the site gives a forum to customers and ex-customers who say the
employee-owned airline's customer service leaves a lot to be desired.
Decked with the logo for the Free Speech Online Blue Ribbon
Campaign, the site includes flashing red slash-circles around the word
"friendly", plus hot links to pages with labels like "rudeness",
"misinformation" and "incompetence." Those in turn lead to
letters grumbling of customer disservice, unhelpfulness and general
ineptitude. There's also a section that uses federal figures to take
the airline to task over safety, baggage handling and on-time
performance. There seems to be an audience for United-bashing:
the site claims that in its nearly three months of existence, it has
had 3 million viewers
(No, the PRI Marketplace
program, which referenced this web site in a recent story, reaches an
audience of approximately 3 million listeners.)
-- among
them 313 hits by United management. The site's creator said he
took to the web after letters to United about his service complaints
failed to produce satisfaction. Writes Cooperstock: "We're all
looking forward to that day when this web site is no longer necessary."
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Aviation Column
... want to see an airline's worst nightmare? And, hey, just because
there is not one out there that says www.aanightmare.com or
www.deltaisawful.com don't think you are safe! Check out
www.untied.com. It is a webpage that was created to publicly discuss
and highlight supposed inept, surly, stupid or just plain rude service
by United Airlines employees. The site got a great deal of press on a
National Public Radio segment on Friday...
Public Radio International -- Marketplace
(Sorry; transcript not available.)
September 17, 2000
By Kevin Simpson
Tuesday, September 5, 2000
But Are Consumers Listening?
Adrienne Mand
May 24, 2000: James Goodwin, left,
chairman and CEO of UAL Corp., and Stephen Wolf, chairman of US Airways
Group.
August 22, 2000
August 21, 2000
By Katherine Lee
July 2, 2000
Michael Shaprio
May 14, 2000
John Briley
April 3, 2000
Anna Mulrine
March 2000
by Jamais Cascio
February 28, 2000
Corporate America's protesters find forum on the Internet
By Mike Comerford
Year 2000: Volume 5, Issue 2, pages 138-146
By Nigel M. de Bussy, Richard T. Watson, Leyland F. Pitt and Michael T. Ewing
November 11, 1999
by Jonathan Shikes
November 1999
Denise Harvill
Director, Customer Relations
Call: 847-700-6796
Fax: 847-700-2214
E-Mail: www.ual.com.
Click: "Our Company." Select category: food, seat assignment,
etc.
Write: to Harvill at
United Airlines
Customer Relations
Box 66100
Chicago, IL 60666
Staff: 120 in Chicago.
Turnaround Time: 24-48 hours for e-mail, telephone
calls. Letters faxed or mailed by Premier Mileage Plus members
get response within 2 weeks. General public: 60 days. Fastest
response: 1K members.
Comment: Becoming quite aggressive in tackling customer
feedback, especially for its most frequent flyers. Has a special
e-mail response team. New system "images" faxed and written
correspondence in its "Customer Solutions Database." Senior
vps and frontline management teams get monthly stats and status
reports. Anticipating complaints of elite-level Mileage Plus
members, United sends letters of apology in advance and, sometimes,
a mileage bonus. Elite members get customized responses, infrequent
passengers get form letters aimed at specific issues. Plus,
a letter-writing consultant has been hired to work with customer
relations staffers. Harvill on complaining directly to an
online gripe site: "We prefer customers come directly to us.
We take their issues seriously. I have employees who work
diligently trying to resolve a customer's complaint equitably."
United has pledged to institute a toll-free number for complaints
by January.
Air Date: Oct. 26, 1999
Producer: Ines Colabrese
"We had a garment bag that was
crushed when a flight attendant put
a stroller on top of it," he says. "We
had seat assignments ...that were
made in advance and were basically
told no those seats don't exist."
Cooperstock posted a notice on his
personal web site. He was surprised
how many people offered their own
stories about United -- some real
horror stories. So he created a web
site devoted to complaints about United. And told the
airline what he had done.
Then United Airlines sent a letter, he
added, containing "legal threats
made against me for trademark
infringement and copyright, although
the word copyright was misspelled."
September 23, 1999
September, 1999
Start Talking to Fliers Online
Jane Costello
Travel: Advice
August 22, 1999
WANDERING THE WEB FOR AIR BARGAINS NOT ALL THAT FRUITFUL
Paul Grimes
Crabby Traveler: Travel Gripe Sties
July 1999
Christopher Elliott
The Magazine of the International Airline Passengers Association
June 24, 1999
What do you do when an airline has given you an appalling flight,
cancelled your reservation or left you stranded between connections
desperate to get home or on to your next meeting. You can, of course,
complain, but the probability is that you will not get a satisfactory
answer, let alone compensation. Too often airlines respond to
complaints with meaningless stock answers or send a letter that
basically says tough. At worst they don't bother to reply at all, safe
in the knowledge that most complaints will never be heard of outside
their customer services departments.
Personal Technology
June 24, 1999
Robert Dodge
Spotlight Site: Untied.com
March/April 1999
Travel Section
March 18, 1999
Laura Bly
Report on Business Magazine
March 1999
Clive Thompson
December 1998
Taylor & Jerome
November 30, 1998
How some fliers state their complaints via the web
A.G. Dunham
October 6, 1998
Cybercapital From Fed-Up Fliers
Jane Costello
Who's Really Cashing in on Frequent Flier Miles
July 6, 1998
July 2, 1998
March 8, 1998
Laura Bly
March 5, 1998
Heather Montgomery
January 30, 1998
Deena Yellin
October 27, 1997
by Jennifer Tanaka
September 24, 1997
Compiled by Stephen H. Dunphy
Friday, September 19, 1997
by John Schmeltzer
October 1997
by Roberta Furger
July 28, 1997
Compiled by Jim Gardner
July 20, 1997
July 15, 1997